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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

[unknown: 9]
15-May-2005
[584x3]
FTP..........NEVER!
FTP is evel.
evil.
Pekr
15-May-2005
[587]
btw - is there really fixed ftp scheme available for rebol? I wonder 
how is that other ftp products as FXFTP etc. don't have any problems 
...
Anton
16-May-2005
[588]
Through lots of work (or luck, on your platform) do programs like 
FXFTP work without problems. :) Various FTP implementations vary 
wildly with their output. It takes lots of work to support them all. 
See Reichart's exclamation above.
[unknown: 9]
16-May-2005
[589]
Yeah, I'm REALLY anti FTP.  It took us writing our own FTP Client 
to realize, FTP is simply not worth supporting, the people who originated 
it were kids, that did not know what they were doing.  We waste too 
much time, as has everyone that has written FTP client or Server 
software.


Basically, the standard should be rewritten such that every command 
that a normal DOS would use are available, even the simple stuff 
like getting the size of the volume the data is being stored on, 
and remaining space.


But also there needs to be systems in place for check-summing files 
in usable chunks, and also for doing metrics from both sides so that 
better predictions can be made about the time it will take to synch.

It goes on and on, just throw FTP away…


Build an x-internet interface to something new, and build it correctly 
to be global not local.


For example, every block (some unit of bytes) of a given file should 
be able to exist in multiple places (on the web, not just on a server), 
etc.

Let's solve everything in one place once and for all.
Sunanda
16-May-2005
[590]
FTP is evil.
But some of us have to use it.
As far as I know, REBOL doesn't support SCP
http://support.real-time.com/linux/web/scp.html

(Technically this is not an Altme message, so perhaps replies could 
go to Chat)
eFishAnt
16-May-2005
[591x4]
wow, I just figured out the subliminal message of AltME brand.  The 
user becomes a new "ME" because of being reborn into the communications/collaboration 
age.  It ain't the same old me, it's the AltME.
I have been Alt-ed
maybe even X-Alt-ed
and no scars showing.
Brock
16-May-2005
[595x2]
Alt-R-ed
;)
Volker
21-May-2005
[597]
How about browsing a users webserver? means altme would launch a 
browser to the users dial-up IP. Could be usefull for writing web-documents, 
quick turnarounds.
james_nak
24-May-2005
[598]
We have a small private world and guess what? We deleted the master. 
Now we can't change anything. Is there any way to get the master 
back?
[unknown: 10]
25-May-2005
[599x2]
What im missing actualy in ALTME is a GLOBAL "lock" on all the ALTME 
windows..!! Just 1 button that locks all the IO with mouse and keyboard 
on the ALTME input fields..
PS: a feature im using on my chat tool too and its sometimes very 
handy!
[unknown: 9]
26-May-2005
[601]
Please expalin more...
Volker
26-May-2005
[602]
can imagine "don't accidentally type in the public", or forcing mouse, 
keyboard to stay in the window. the first i would like too, the second 
not.
[unknown: 9]
26-May-2005
[603]
I'm not following, need a more verbose description.
Volker
26-May-2005
[604]
situation: i want to copypaste something and juggle with all this 
windows. accidentally pick altme and paste. would be good if altme 
would not accept that. similar in purpose to this "gone" button, 
i am here, can read, but don't want to say something, because window-juggling.
[unknown: 10]
26-May-2005
[605x4]
Yes its like volker says..Just a Display input, I often happens that 
by accident you type someting and hit enter.. ALTME can be used for 
Read-only in that case too.. Just to prefent yourself or someone 
else behind your PC for dropping data into input fields...
Ii.e. the "
Oeps..
I.e. the "GONE/LATER" button could imply that..
Volker
26-May-2005
[609]
you mean, we dont want to publish things like ACCeo93$&!! accidentally, 
right?
[unknown: 10]
26-May-2005
[610]
yups...
Volker
26-May-2005
[611]
(oops, can somebody delete my password here please? PLEASE!!)
[unknown: 10]
26-May-2005
[612x2]
Or even Wrong Copy&Pasts between different Chat tools...
:)
[unknown: 9]
26-May-2005
[614]
OK, so let me recap, you want to be able to re-edit something that 
was posted?
Volker
26-May-2005
[615x2]
No, i we want to block posting something.
instead of typing/pasting a warning "remember you are not really 
here" ;)
Tomc
26-May-2005
[617x5]
R they want a button , like the 'gone' button that when active prevents 
altme from accepting input
(presumably except repushing the button)
quiesent mode perhaps
disables the "New message" text area ... makes it uneditable
lurker mode
[unknown: 9]
27-May-2005
[622x2]
Ah, I get it.
So, based on that logic, perhaps it needs to be both manual, and 
automatic (if AltME looses focus, it turns on Lock)?
Brock
27-May-2005
[624]
configurable in user settings  ;)
Volker
27-May-2005
[625]
i like the idea with "lose focus, lock. come back, unlock first". 
some confirm "do you really want to type here.". i would be more 
relaxed in using the clipboard :)
[unknown: 9]
27-May-2005
[626x2]
Agreed.
Does anyone have this problem with IM, or anythign else that accepts 
fast input?
Henrik
27-May-2005
[628x2]
IRC clients all have this problem
I've only seen one which asks if I want to paste many lines, but 
not generally for pasting.
Anton
30-May-2005
[630x2]
When trying to type, flash the "unlock" icon (instead of further 
annoying the user by popping a requestor).
A new user, not knowing and surprised by the lock, then is tempted 
to ask "what the hell is this flashing icon ?", presses it, then 
gets the message, "keyboard unlocked" - "ahh.. I see!"
[unknown: 9]
30-May-2005
[632]
Agreed.
ChristianE
30-May-2005
[633]
Probably better yet: Do both. And put a "Don't show this dialog again" 
check-box into the popup-requester. I don't appreciate very much 
depending on user's curiosity to find out how things work.