World: r3wp

Ha, it works! :)

Gabriele: I remember that on Ubuntu package manager says that libXaw.so.6 
is already installed.

I'm now on windows
?? You hurried to run home? :)

IIRC Ubuntu had some other problem too, with a missing printsomething. 
Somebody said upgrading helped.

Volker :) No I just hurried to reboot :) Running AltME on SUSE 10.0 
without problem.

:))

Hm, tried running my demo from competition on Linux REBOL - no fonts, 
feels 2-3x slower than on Win and crashed.

How does it run on wine?

I don't know, I'm linux newbie, I have to install Wine :)

There is a package-manager! :)

I have been having this problem on Ubuntu too. Altme runs fine on 
wine.

Sadly sometimes better. must be because Carl is a winemaker.. :)

i found out i had installed both libXaw.so.6 and libXaw.so.7. I was 
getting this error:  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXaw.so.6: undefined 
symbol: xawPrintShellWidgetClass

Yes, AFAIK that was somehow deprecated. found a bug-report from another 
app somewhere.

But Kaj or someone said with a newer ubuntu that was gone. dont know 
all this ubuntu-names.

your tip above led me to the solution. i uninstalled libXaw.so.6 
like thus: apt-get remove libXaw6, then i created the following link: 
ln -s /usr/lib/libXaw.so.7 /usr/lib/libXaw.so.6 and it worked perfectly

hope that helps Rebolek

Good. But on my system (debian) something sometimes removed that 
link and i had to do it again. which is why i used the package.method. 
it somehow detected the link-name did not match the library-version.

very possible, i install and uninstall stuff all the time so there 
is no telling what package takes the link out

seemed to be some system-cleanup/check on boot or something.

Rebolek: try mandriva as I have it installed and works fine

Thanks to everybody. I've installed SimplyMEPIS 3.4.3, symlinked 
libXaw.so.6 and it works fine. As result, I hope, I'll be booting 
Windows less and less frequently :)

It looks to me like new people who join this world are not automatically 
made members of private groups. In fact, they probably won't even 
know what private groups exist,

But, equally, the members of private groups have no easy way of telling 
who the recent world members are, so it is often hard to review them 
for potential membership.
Is there a way to resolve that?

Feature is on the list (annoys me too).

I have invited everyone else.

What steps are required to move an AltME world from one host to another?

It has been a couple of years but I think I just tarred the whole 
directory tree moved it to a new machine

untarred it , ... made sure the need ports were available on the 
new machine ...

that is the one (non economic) feature for safeworlds hosting the 
world server

clients will not need to know you moved at  all

I just got a console message saying "Show on face in closed window". 
When I closed the console window, AltME quit. The only window I remember 
having open during that session was the alert window.

Why is ALTME not messing up my screen when I manualy resize the screen? 
Where when a simple 'resize in /view Does!??? What does ALTME do 
differently? Is it a more dircet /view access ???

The screen refresh of ALTME is much faster then normal rebol /view 
routines... how come so??

describe "faster"... because I don't think it's any faster than any 
of the stuff I do myself

but if you use SHOW wrong, it can get very slow

Well i mean that when i start ALTME in i.e. 500x500 and then resize 
with mouse I dont see any screen stripes while resizing, but when 
I do this with a simple window under rebol I do see lots of screen-stripes 
during resize untill I loosen my finger from the mouse button...

Its not so important but i thought perhpas altme is using less /view 
overhead somehow..

AltME probably ignores resize events until its ready to redraw

Yes that must be because the background color stays nicely white...Mmmmm 
I need to fingure that out too ;-)

Mmm... good question, Rebolinth.

also, don't forget AltME is running on 1.2.10

Yes, that appears to be why. The exact same code running on 1.2.10 
gives nice solid white background, while 1.2.48 and 1.3.2 leave trash.

view/options center-face layout [area] 'resize

Maybe RT was trying to see if they could get continual resize events 
processed by rebol, so they disabled a default refresh. But then 
it was probably found that rebol refresh is not really fast enough 
to keep up ? Not sure.

I don't remember ever seeing an option to enable "all resize events".

There might be a way to do it using the system port, but then that 
might be platform specific (ie. probably Windows-only) for now.

Ok, after all my complaints about font sizes in Altme on newer monitors, 
it looks like the next windows will deal with this... a quote.. 


 Don't you hate it how, when you increase the resolution of your desktop, 
 everything gets smaller? With widescreen LCD monitors sporting resolutions 
 of 1920x1200, and even laptops with screens that high-res, the icons 
 and text on your PC can become absolutely tiny when you run at the 
 native resolution. Enabling large fonts and trying to scale your 
 desktop icons in WinXP only sort-of works, and it breaks as many 
 things as it fixes. With Vista, your plug-and-play monitor can tell 
 your PC what size and resolution it is, and then Vista can scale 
 everything appropriately. 12-point fonts will actually be 12 points, 
 regardless of whether you're using a 1280x1024 19
 LCD or an ultra-high-res laptop."

wonderful news on the blog! Looking very much forward to testing 
the new AltME under OSX

http://www.altme.com/beta.html

More to come. Also, OSX works, but a few small bugs still hanging 
around. See notes on that page.