World: r3wp

When I copied it within the same, original directory, it still could 
not be opened.

False Alert !!!   It had read-only attribute set.  (omg...)  Sorry 
about that.

Ammon, i cannot reproduce your bug. can anyone reproduce it?

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=-551&

Nope. I get a simple error.
>> load "():"
** Syntax Error: Invalid word-get -- :
** Near: (line 1) ():

what do you think about this, BTW?:

>> l: make list! [4]
== make list! [4]
>> m: tail l
== make list! []
>> first back m
== 4
>> pick m -1
== none

Inconsistent beahviour imho.  It should be:
>> pick m -1
== 4

agreed

Ah, you are right.  I guess I didn't have the latest version of the 
interpreter running.  Sorry.

There is a bug that is currently plaguing us though and its going 
to be difficult to corner but needs to be found.  On some systems 
then:

>> form 1.0
== "1.0"

Others:

>> form 1.0
== "1"

Actually, the latest beta acts the same on both Linux and Windows 
and uses the "1.0" form which is wrong.  Form  should return "1" 
where Mold should return "1.0"

As near as I can tell the newest version that forms decimals properly 
is 2.5.6 for windows and  2.1.1 for Linux.  I don't have access to 
a 2.5.6 version for Linux but on Windows 2.5.6 forms correctly and 
2.5.7 and every version newer that I have tested has formed decimals 
incorrectly.

Why do you think it's incorrect?

That it's a change in behavior, yes, but it seems more correct the 
way it is now, so I'm guessing it's an intentional change.

Why though?  We have Mold that gives us the REBOL version and the 
name implies that it is giving us the "pretty" version of the value.

RAMBO #3460. It's come up before.

I don't know about "pretty " versus loadable, but what specific issue 
does it cause that you don't want that extra information available?

Ammon, look at my PRINTF function in rebol.org it gives you preceise 
control on formating number strings.

It was really an issue of having inconsistant behaviour on different 
platforms in some of the earlier alphas.  Now that it is consistant 
across platforms I don't think I can really complain about it.  We'll 
just use 'round or a similar function to format the decimals.

find mold ctx-viewtop http://www.rebol.com/view/icons/desktop

I am sure the above url is not supposed to have "icons/" in it,
and it should also have a final slash, like this:

	http://www.rebol.com/view/desktop/


The reason it hasn't shown itself is because it appears in this ANY 
block:


 any [user-prefs/desktop-url http://www.rebol.com/view/icons/desktop] 

and user-prefs is set up correctly elsewhere:

	>> user-prefs/desktop-url
	== http://www.rebol.com/view/desktop/

Another issue. Looks like global word SUFFIX-MAP is supposed to be 
local to CTX-VIEWTOP.

(I could be wrong, maybe IOS uses it too, so therefore shared globally 
?)
Anyone have some insight on that ?

Just checked, Rebol/Link does not have SUFFIX-MAP global.

Therefore, I am more sure it's not supposed to be Global in Rebol/View.

mymistake please delete RAMBO Ticket #-556

Please remove tiket 4021, my mistake, I had this in user.r
clean-path: :secure-clean-path

Will, might be better to submit a new rambo ticket to ask to remove 
the old one. Then it's not forgotten, and you know the people actually 
capable of closing the ticket will have to review it.

will do thanks for the tip 8)

This situation happened to me several times when I first started. 
I would report bugs that were my caused by my own custom user.r. 
It makes you unsure and paranoid about your bug reports, so slows 
you down and maybe stops you making the bug report.

So what I did was create an "anton-user.r" file, which my user.r 
calls *optionally*.
It decides whether to call it based on a command line argument.

So, two different command lines can start rebol "clean" (without 
anton-user.r) or "unclean" (with all my customizations in anton-user.r).

For example, two icons I have:

Rebol/View 1.3.1.3.1   ->  D:\Anton\Dev\Rebol\View\rebview1.3.001.3.1.exe 
-- "do-anton-user?: true"

Rebol/View 1.3.1.3.1 (clean)   ->  D:\Anton\Dev\Rebol\View\rebview1.3.001.3.1.exe

Then my user.r contains this:

        use [args] [if args: system/options/args [do first args]] 
        if value? 'do-anton-user? [
            use [site contents url] [
                site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/

                if contents: load-thru http://www.reboltech.com/index.r[
                    site: select contents [folder "Anton"]
                ] 
                clear find site %index.r 
                if none? do load-thru url: site/anton-user.r [
                    print ["Couldn't load-thru" url]
                ]
            ] 
            unset 'do-anton-user?
        ]

nice tip thanks 8)

(The SITE stuff I have there is so I can keep anton-user.r part of 
my public distribution. You may not need all that though.)

You're welcome :)

So I keep my user.r small, and if by chance it should ever be overwritten 
by a new installation of rebol in the same directory, then I haven't 
lost too much.

I'm checking your library for something useful 8)

There's a few useful things in there.

Am I wrong or Romano ftp patch is builtin latest versions?

I think it is, let me check...

Let's see, anton-user.r...
if find form system/product "view" [


 if (system/version * 1.1.1.0.0) < 1.2.110.0.0 [ ; View1.2.110 has 
 Romano's FTP handler built in.
		do load-thru site/patch/ftp-romano-patch/ftp-patch53.r
	]

hmm yes , well thanks again, maybe time to go sleep here 8)

sleep well.

you have also system/options/script in %user.r . That way you can 
make a "raw"-folder.

 if not find/match clean-path system/options/script view-root/public[ 
 my-extra-stuff ]

4021 was already dismissed, so there was no need for a new ticket 
actually.

Volker, your code means "if this script was not run from view-root/public 
(ie. someone else's script), then do my customizations".
Is my interpretation ok ?

Yes.

I posted two new tickets concerning UDP to RAMBO:
- "no-wait UDP ports and blocking COPY"
- "no-wait UDP ports and READ-IO"
I see the blocking problem as critical

nice! So we make networking layer better and better. Maybe then Gabriele 
will be able to get his Chord to work properly, as it uses UDP too?

I don't know if this is technically a bug or not but I REALLY wish 
that 'switch would throw its errors so that I know where to find 
the switch that is giving me headaches!