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[RAMBO] The REBOL bug and enhancement database

JaimeVargas
7-Mar-2006
[1595x2]
Well after the make I get errors.
The data is:
run1: 1716394
run2: 3396726
run3: 1717126
Volker
7-Mar-2006
[1597x2]
Thanks. That confirms the bug.
Niow i need a good description..
JaimeVargas
7-Mar-2006
[1599x2]
I think the description is precise enough. make object! object! Not 
releaseing is bad. (Dangling pointers)
Good catch.
Gabriele
8-Mar-2006
[1601]
hmm, but memory is released at the next non object-object make, no?
Volker
8-Mar-2006
[1602]
Seems so. But i had a memory-leak by this. Seems making objects is 
not that common when the gui is set up. Then extend incomming objects 
with a default one, in that case it drove me mad.
Ashley
13-Mar-2006
[1603]
Anyone had problems with 'switch and datatype! I've reduced the problem 
down to:

t: func [v] [
	select [
		#[datatype! integer!]	["A"]
		#[datatype! decimal!]	["B"]
		#[datatype! block!]	["C"]
	] type? v
]

>> t 1
== ["A"]
>> t 1.0
== ["B"]
>> t []
== decimal!

Unless there's an obvious explanation, I'll RAMBO it.
Gabriele
14-Mar-2006
[1604x3]
the explanation is this:
>> find [1 a []] block!
== [[]]
>> find [1 a []] word!
== [a []]
>> find [1 a []] integer!
== [1 a []]
so, use type?/word
Robert
14-Mar-2006
[1607x2]
Is this intended?
>> all [true true true]
== true
>> all [true true false]
== none
>> all [false false false]
== none
Why don't I get back FALSE in the 2nd and 3rd case?
Pekr
14-Mar-2006
[1609x2]
hmm, strange, it should be false imo :-)
RAMBO it, please, they will dismiss it at max, if it is not a bug, 
but I think it is ...
Robert
14-Mar-2006
[1611]
Ok, submitted.
Gabriele
14-Mar-2006
[1612]
not sure if it can be said to be a bug, but i see the reasoning about 
wanting false there, so maybe it can be changed.
Ashley
14-Mar-2006
[1613]
Thanks Gabriele, *so* obvious in hindsight (my workaround was to 
move the block! condition to the top of the list, but type?/word 
is a good refinement to remember!)
Coccinelle
15-Mar-2006
[1614x2]
If all [true true false] should return false, all [true true none] 
should return false or none ?
same question for any : any [false false false]  should return false 
or none ?
Gabriele
15-Mar-2006
[1616x2]
any is more difficult to change it that case. any "returns the first 
value that is not none or false". there is no such value in that 
block - so what should it do?
should it return the last value anyway?
Coccinelle
15-Mar-2006
[1618]
For me any and all should never return false. That's my opinion.
Robert
15-Mar-2006
[1619x3]
The problem I see is that I often use ANY and ALL as a condition 
and it it returns NONE I can't do anything with it. IMO this pattern 
should be possible:
	either ANY [...][yes][no]
DESCRIPTION:

     Shortcut AND. Evaluates and returns at the first FALSE or NONE.
     ALL is a native value.
How about returning than either FALSE or NONE which every was hit? 
That makes sense to me. So I can ensure that my app returns FALSE 
and that this value is returned. But now I return FALSE and get back 
NONE.
Rebolek
15-Mar-2006
[1622]
If you want to return FALSE instead of NONE, use FOUND?

>> found? any [true true false]
== true
>> found? all [true true false]
== false
Pekr
15-Mar-2006
[1623]
:-)
Coccinelle
15-Mar-2006
[1624]
I don't see the problem with either any [...][yes][no] :
>> either ANY [true false]["yes"]["no"]
== "yes"
>> either ANY [false false]["yes"]["no"]
== "no"
Gabriele
15-Mar-2006
[1625x2]
robert: either takes any value, false or none are "false", anything 
else is "true".
also, yes, found? is the default way to make a value into a logic! 
. not is also a nice way to do that, when you can/need to reverse 
the logic.
Robert
17-Mar-2006
[1627x2]
found? is the most elegant one so far. But the word's meaning isn't 
that good in such a case. I didn't searched anything...
Using EITHER and hence mapping the result on TRUE or FALSE is IMO 
a hack. It works (that's how I do it) but it's not logical. Maybe 
a refinment for ANY and ALL makes sense.
	ALL/logical and ANY/logical

I can see situations where it's very handy that ANY will return the 
result of some actions and not only TRUE and FALSE.
Gregg
17-Mar-2006
[1629x2]
You can use TO LOGIC! directly, or write a mezz with a better name, 
that wraps it.
Something like RESULT? maybe, and it could also handle unset values 
if that's needed.
Rebolek
17-Mar-2006
[1631]
Robert: I think, ANY and ALL are meant for little bit 'wilder' things 
than returning TRUE or FALSE. Remember they return *AT* first false 
or none, it's not that they should return FALSE - which is important

simple example
>> a: 5
== 5
>> all [a < 3 a: a + 1]
== none
>> a
== 5
>> a: 1
== 1
>> all [a < 3 a: a + 1]
== 2
>> a
== 2
Robert
17-Mar-2006
[1632]
Yes, I know. And I often use this feature as well. That's why I think 
the refinement approach is best.
ChristianE
17-Mar-2006
[1633x4]
>> true?: :found?
>> true? all [conditon-1 conditon-2 conditon-3]
>> true? any [conditon-1 conditon-2 conditon-3]
A bit surprising though is:
>> true? all []
== true
At least it conforms to it's description saying "Shortcut AND. Evaluates 
and returns at the first FALSE or NONE." There was no first none 
or false.
[unknown: 10]
20-Mar-2006
[1637x3]
double colors in 'draw dilect does crsh view... Is that known?
Without the use of line-pattern..
effect: [ draw [ 
			pen gray silver
			line-width 15
			line-join round        
			line 22x220 150x350
	 ] ]
Anton
21-Mar-2006
[1640]
I confirm on WinXP.
DideC
21-Mar-2006
[1641]
So am I.
Maxim
21-Mar-2006
[1642]
discovered it last week... I imagined it was a known bug... but I 
didn't check  ':-/
DideC
21-Mar-2006
[1643x2]
It's in RAMBO #4040 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4040&
Cyphre said it's fixed, but not release yet (if I understand correctly)