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Anton 21-Nov-2006 [2102] | An ever-present question. I guess being non-standard, the character can cause trouble in another situation. Then who is to blame ? |
Gabriele 21-Nov-2006 [2103x2] | use a block instead of a url |
Anton, the problem is actually that rebol does not handle percent encoding correctly in URLs. (i hope we can fix this in r3) | |
Maxim 21-Nov-2006 [2105x2] | #4143 not sure I like the proposed change, . I'd prefer if this new version was a refinement /ONLY . I don't see what is the issue with switch as it stands !?!? |
I've been using switch for years and have used other second values than blocks many times... its very usefull. sometimes I put functions there. | |
Gabriele 21-Nov-2006 [2107] | max, there was a discussion here about switch and the new one was agreed to be a better solution. Ladislav can explain better what his concerns with the current switch are (mainly dealing with none i think). the feature with multiple values going to one block is very useful (i needed it many times and implemented my own switch because of that), so it seemed a good idea to integrate it in switch directly; but it could be a refirement if that would create too many problems. |
Maxim 21-Nov-2006 [2108x2] | Ladislav, care to clue me on why the proposed change of "evaluates following value" to "evaluates following block" ? if you already have only blocks, I don't see the advantage, it seems like adding a limitation !? |
ok, I just looked more deeply into the #4143 ticket.... its a nice alternative to switch cause it allows multiple cases for each action... it functions differently, why not call it 'CHOOSE ? | |
Anton 22-Nov-2006 [2110x2] | We already have CHOOSE. |
Gabriele, I have noted that in a file. You will never have to remind me of that again, hopefully. | |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2112] | about 'CHOOSE eek I hate that VID populates the global space like that... |
Gabriele 22-Nov-2006 [2113] | max, i would be ok with switch/multiple. but is it worth to "bloat" switch? anyway if the change breaks actual code maybe we'll need to. do you think we should still let it in 2.7.2 and then you can test it and see how it goes in practice? if it only breaks one script in the world, it's quite easy to fix just that :) |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2114x2] | I agree that the new switch is better in practice. I will try it against my current code base and report back I use switch profusely... so if its not an issue for me I think that it should be a good reference in general. |
any tests wrt speed? is it much slower than previous version? I also think we should add /all like the 'CASE.... since we are revisiting and operating on such a fundamental mezz, it could be a good time to make it as consistent with other similar mezz... and the /all could be usefull. especially for handling non-exclusive refinements. | |
Gabriele 22-Nov-2006 [2116x2] | not sure i understand how /all should work. |
speed: it's probably a bit slower (two calls to find instead of one to select) but i haven't done benchmarks. | |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2118] | do all the switches which match instead of only the first one ex: switch [ 1 2 3 [do this] 3 4 5 [do that]] 3 would execute both blocks. |
Gabriele 22-Nov-2006 [2119] | ah, i see, with multiple values it makes sense. |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2120x2] | yep it almost looks like the third friend in the ANY/ALL combination |
new switch nicely replaces any/all in such circumstances as this: color: switch/default value [ 0 false 'off 'no none [] "" [red] 1 true 'on 'yes [green ]] [color: blue] | |
Gabriele 22-Nov-2006 [2122x2] | can we do better than this? |
switch: func [ "Selects a choice and evaluates the block that follows it." [ throw ] value "Value to search for." cases [block!] "Block of cases to search." /default case "Default case if no others are found." /all "Evaluate all matches (not just first one)" ][ if system/words/all [ cases: find cases value cases: find next cases block! ] [ case: clear [ ] append case first cases cases: next cases while [ system/words/all [ all cases: find cases value cases: find next cases block! ] ] [ append case first cases cases: next cases ] ] do case ] | |
Anton 22-Nov-2006 [2124] | Better to just have the WHILE, and break if not ALL ? |
Gregg 22-Nov-2006 [2125] | Haven't followed in detail; is there a reason it doesn't use FIND/ONLY instead of just FIND? We should also write a doc on SWITCH, SELECT, CASE, and DISPATCH (any others?) to note their differences. These funcs are an easy place to introduce subtle bugs if you don't understand--or, like me, sometimes forget--exactly how they work. |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2126] | can I propose this for R3? fill: func [ "Fills a series to a fixed length" data "series to fill, any non series is converted to string!" len [integer!] "length of resulting string" /with val "replace default space char" /right "right justify fill" /truncate "will truncate input data if its larger than len" /local buffer ][ unless series? data [ data: to-string data ] val: any [ val " " ; default value ] buffer: head insert/dup make type? data none val len either right [ reverse data change buffer data reverse buffer ][ change buffer data ] if truncate [ clear next at buffer len ] buffer ] |
Gabriele 22-Nov-2006 [2127x3] | Anton: the do has to be out of the while, otherwise a break inside cases would not work; maybe i could make it only a while if i use an extra variable instead of appending to case. |
what i'd like to avoid is the copying, because that could have a negative impact on performance, but it seems to me it gets ugly very quickly without. | |
Max: head insert/dup tail copy data val len - length? data can save you some of that :) | |
Maxim 22-Nov-2006 [2130] | I think I was more concerned with the fill function itself and its range of arguments... I agree that the reverse stuff is not optimal. could 'FILL itself (a faster implementation) be considered for 2.7 ? I've had to implement this kind of func so often...? it handles all series, and transforms non series automatically... so you can easily fill any value: fill 1 3 == "1 " also: zfill: func [i len][fill/with/right i len 0] zfill 1 3 == "001" /right might be /left depending on POV I prefer /right in the sense where the output is right justified... a /center could also be added pretty easily. |
Anton 23-Nov-2006 [2131x6] | Gabriele, ah I see. |
I didn't notice the importance of the one line which is different: case: clear [ ] | |
.. and the other line.. all | |
never mind me. | |
Well.. here is what I was thinking. It's a bit shorter, but it's not as easy to read: | |
switch: func [ "Selects a choice and evaluates the block that follows it." [ throw ] value "Value to search for." cases [block!] "Block of cases to search." /default case "Default case if no others are found." /all "Evaluate all matches (not just first one)" ][ while [ system/words/all [ any [head? cases all] ; only continue if at the beginning or /ALL was specified cases: find cases value cases: find next cases block! ] ] [ if any [default none? case][default: none case: clear []] ; only clear case the first time append case first cases cases: next cases ] do case ] | |
Gabriele 23-Nov-2006 [2137] | i'm still hoping for someone to come out with a better idea :) |
Anton 23-Nov-2006 [2138x3] | Well, how about a parse version with the ALL refinement. |
switch: func [ "Selects a choice and evaluates the first block that follows it." [throw] ; <-- allows RETURN to be used by the user to jump out of an enclosing function (not just this one) value "Value to search for." cases [block!] "Block of cases to search." /default case [block!] "Default case if no others are found." /all "Evaluate all matches (not just first one)" /local rule new ][ rule: [ 1 1 () ; <-- value to block! set new block! ; <- re-use the 'case variable ( if any [default none? case][default: none case: clear []] ; only clear case the first time append case new ) to end ; <-- | skip to () ; <-- type? value ] rule/3: value change back tail rule type? value rule/11: either all [type? value]['end] parse cases [some rule] do case ] | |
(remove the comment "; <- re-use the 'case variable" ) | |
[unknown: 5] 23-Nov-2006 [2141x2] | Breaks some very useful features of older switch |
>> print switch integer! ["1" ["string"] 1 ["integer"]] none | |
Ladislav 23-Nov-2006 [2143] | Breaks some very useful features of older switch - the question is, whether you prefer: switch integer! ["1" ['a] 1 ['b] #[datatype! integer!] ['c]] to yield 'b or 'c, though |
[unknown: 5] 23-Nov-2006 [2144] | I don't know that I would want to break switch for it since the name "Switch" implies that you are switching. But since switch is built on the select function and it sounds more like what your looking for - I would think something like a select/all would be the route to go. |
Maxim 23-Nov-2006 [2145x2] | I always use switch with type?/word... cause the block is then able to use datatype-like words directly instead of datatype values. |
ladislav: in above example, c is expected IMHO. otherwise it opens up the door to too many ... options. | |
Gabriele 23-Nov-2006 [2147x3] | anton: unfortunately TO in parse does not do what you expect for all values (try to pass an integer). |
ie i had proposed a parse based switch but it didn't work | |
paul, /all only makes sense if you allow multiple cases per block, so select/all would not help. | |
[unknown: 5] 23-Nov-2006 [2150x2] | That would be my point Gabriele. |
By the way - why is 'select a native anyway? I understand 'find being native but I would think that a 'select function could already be built as a mezz function from the native 'find. | |
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