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[RAMBO] The REBOL bug and enhancement database

Maxim
5-Jan-2007
[2402x2]
just tooo many projects only only coding, but the house, familly 
,etc...
oops first only=not
JaimeVargas
6-Jan-2007
[2404]
Lad, I think it is sensible to add to RAMBO. But what is a sensible 
result. For that case?
Ladislav
7-Jan-2007
[2405]
Jaime: since all other negative values yield [1], it seems like the 
intended result and the least surprise. Any other opinions?
Anton
7-Jan-2007
[2406]
I agree - the least surprise.
JaimeVargas
7-Jan-2007
[2407x4]
Humm. I think it should return []
Since tail? next [1] ;== true and next next [] ;== []
Also, >> copy/part [1 2 3] -1
== []
So I don't see why copy/part next [1] should yield [1]
Anton
7-Jan-2007
[2411x2]
copy/part is relative
>> copy/part at [1 2 3 4 5] 4 -2
== [2 3]
I think it's not well known.
JaimeVargas
8-Jan-2007
[2413]
Anton thats not the issue copy/part is missbehaving when the block 
is at its TAIL position.
Anton
8-Jan-2007
[2414x2]
You misunderstand - the bug is not because the series index is at 
the TAIL, it is because the copy/part RANGE is -2147483648
To be clear ;  when the copy/part RANGE is *negative* it copies *backwards* 
from the series index.  This is useful, but not well known, I think.
Ladislav
8-Jan-2007
[2416]
Anton is right:

>> copy/part at [1 2 3 4 5] 4 -3
== [1 2 3]
>> copy/part at [1 2 3 4 5] 4 -2147483647
== [1 2 3]
>> copy/part at [1 2 3 4 5] 4 -2147483648
== []
sqlab
8-Jan-2007
[2417]
#4216 is still valid with REBOL/View 2.7.5.3.1 3-Jan-2007
always corrupt datatype:  ..  at 201

Does the message helps my XP wants to send to MS?
Pekr
8-Jan-2007
[2418x2]
not sure, but maybe there is a cache listing ....
imo if it is reproducable, then RT can debug it, even without any 
further info ...
Anton
8-Jan-2007
[2420]
sqlab, I don't get any error on 2.7.5.3.1:
>> get-modes s: open tcp://:87 'port-modes
== [read write binary lines no-wait direct]
Ladislav
11-Jan-2007
[2421x3]
hi, did anybody notice, that sometimes

    a-value: make port! http://

works, while sometimes is end up as follows:

** User Error: No network server for HTTP is specified
** Near: a-value: make port! http://
it ends up
 - sorry for spelling
the first result can be obtained e.g. by starting a fresh REBOL console 
first and then type in the expression

the second one can be obtained in Windows by defining a Do action 
for .r files as follows:

    C:\Rebol\sdk-2-6-2\tools\rebview.exe "%1"


and then right-clicking on a file containing just a REBOL header 
and the above mentioned expression and picking the Do command
Anton
12-Jan-2007
[2424x2]
So does the second way always produce the error ?
I don't seem to have the option to create a Do command in WinXP SP1
Gabriele
12-Jan-2007
[2426x2]
ladislav, could it be that the second way skips user.r and thus does 
not set a default network server?
ie. can you verify a set-net is being executed before that?
Ladislav
12-Jan-2007
[2428x4]
checking
indeed, Gabriele, if I make sure set-net is executed, the problem 
does not occur
Anton - I am using WinXP SP2, but I am positive that it is possible 
in SP1 too
you can define the action in Windows explorer, check registered file 
types
Gabriele
12-Jan-2007
[2432]
ok, so it's not really a bug; it's just that when you have a default 
network server, rebol uses that for any protocol. (set net does not 
actually set the smtp server; it sets the default server. since the 
send function does not specify any server, the default server is 
used to send email; that's why the default server is normally set 
to the smtp server)
Ladislav
12-Jan-2007
[2433x2]
thanks
what do you think about this:

    0:0:0.1 = 0:0.1 ; == true

doesn't it look strange?
Izkata
12-Jan-2007
[2435]
Very, considering 0:0 defaults to hours:minutes -
>> 0:0
== 0:00
>> 0:0.1
== 0:00:00.1
Gabriele
12-Jan-2007
[2436]
hmm... you can have decimal only for seconds... so i guess rebol 
tries to make sense of 0:0.1 by assuming you meant 0:0:0.1
Izkata
13-Jan-2007
[2437]
Maybe it should convert 0:0.1 into 0:0:6 ?  IIRC, Ti calculators 
do that when working with degrees/minutes/seconds...
Gabriele
13-Jan-2007
[2438x3]
0:0 is ambiguous. rebol normally takes that as hours:minutes because 
it's the most common case ("it's 10:07 am now"). but when you write 
1:0.7, rebol can see that you probably meant minutes:seconds, so 
it interprets it that way.
if the format was something like 10h12m3s, then you could write 0h0.1m 
and it could be taken as 0:0:6.
anyway, i guess Carl will change it to whatever is the most useful 
for people, so if most people think that 0:0.1 should mean 0:0:6 
he will probably change it.
Maxim
15-Jan-2007
[2441]
I'm not sure I'd change the time... the above, as explained by Gabriele 
is what is happening, and its very logical... the dot is consistent. 
and fixes the inconsistency of  0:10:0 and  0:10 being the same thing.
Ladislav
15-Jan-2007
[2442x2]
this is a copy of a fresh REBOL interpreter console. Do you think 
it is covered by the documentation, or should I put it to RAMBO?
>> a: make string! 15
== ""
>> insert a "a"
== ""
>> a
== "a"
>> str: make struct! [s [string!]] reduce [a]
>> str/s
== "a"
>> insert/dup tail a "b" 14
== ""
>> a
== "abbbbbbbbbbbbbb"
>> str/s
== "a"
>> recycle
>> str/s
== "¸^D^G^A"
Maxim
15-Jan-2007
[2444]
if we wanted to support decimal minutes and hours, I'd suggest that 
time then support using decimal values in all parts of a time like 
so:

0:.1:00
0.2:00
0:0.25:0.124


then we'd be forced to write 0:0:0.124 and the inconsistency would 
disapear.  a part from the above discrepancy in that you don't have 
to supply seconds
Ladislav
15-Jan-2007
[2445]
Regarding the decimal point in time value issue - my POV is, that 
if users find it natural, then there is no need to change the behaviour
Maxim
15-Jan-2007
[2446x4]
I find the current time is adequate in all scripts I've done so far... 
it just has to be documented... if it currently isn't
I also find that all types should be described within a convertion 
matrix.
row/column of values with equivalent outputs in all other types.
Ladislav, why is the str/a corrupted after a recycle?
Ladislav
15-Jan-2007
[2450x2]
my interpretation: a is relocated to be able to grow and STR does 
not "protect" the old memory while still referencing it
I guess I should put it to RAMBO, because it is not covered by the 
STRUCT! documentation