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Oldes 19-May-2007 [2952] | there is a silly bug in my patch, it should be: use [tmp][ tmp: select second get in system/schemes/http/handler 'open to-set-word 'response-actions if none? find tmp 303 [ insert tmp reduce [303 select tmp 302] ] ] |
Anton 21-May-2007 [2953x3] | Oldes, note that you can do this, which looks clearer to me: select second get in system/schemes/http/handler 'open [response-actions:] |
Oldes, how do you classify this patch ? Is it simply improving Rebol's HTTP 1.0 scheme, or is it half-way sliding towards HTTP 1.1 ? (ie. does the official HTTP 1.0 spec contain a 303 response ?) | |
(if not, then this should be called a "workaround patch" or "temporary migration patch") | |
Oldes 21-May-2007 [2956] | it's patch for buggy foreign servers... as server should not return HTTP1.1 response if client requires HTTP1.0 |
Anton 21-May-2007 [2957] | Ok, so let me restate the situation: Due to a buggy foreign server, we are patching our HTTP scheme, which declares itself as HTTP1.0, with a part from HTTP1.1. (I just want to clarify that HTTP 1.0 does not contain 303.) |
Oldes 21-May-2007 [2958x3] | official HTTP1.0 spec doesn't know 303 response. And there are also missing 305 and 307 forward responses. |
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.4 | |
Note: Many pre-HTTP/1.1 user agents do not understand the 303 status. When interoperability with such clients is a concern, the 302 status code may be used instead, since most user agents react to a 302 response as described here for 303. | |
Anton 21-May-2007 [2961] | Excellent, that's what I wanted to know, thankyou. |
Graham 22-May-2007 [2962] | Gab .. are you submitting and then replying to your own tickets? |
Pekr 22-May-2007 [2963x2] | Graham - actually it might be educative :-) |
or pathological :-) | |
Gabriele 22-May-2007 [2965] | lol - Carl does submit tickets too. it's just to remember about the bugs we find. |
Anton 22-May-2007 [2966x3] | Copy/part can't use a path! as its RANGE argument >> path: 'svvc/color == svvc/color >> copy/part path back tail path ** Script Error: Invalid /part count: color ** Near: copy/part path back tail path |
This is interesting because a path is a series, supposedly very similar to a block. | |
Same with paren! | |
Henrik 23-May-2007 [2969] | I'm studying memory usage and recycle for a bit. Whenever I'm adding a block or doing an operation, REBOL might consume small chunks of memory continuously, like 16-32 kb per second. whenever recycle is applied, it just stops. Why is that? |
Gregg 24-May-2007 [2970] | I don't know, but I've seen similar allocations that continue over time and then seem to stop. |
Henrik 24-May-2007 [2971x3] | I must point out that recycle specifically was turned off and so the number would just keep growing for hours eating up 100s of MB. Recycle is probably normally invoked, if you don't specify that it has to be turned off. The fact that the memory usage just keeps growing in an idle situation seems just like a memory leak to me. |
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlPSTK <--- I can't find this old bug in RAMBO, and it still crashes REBOL. | |
a: [ append a [+ 1] 1] loop 1000 [ print [ do a newline ] print [ "Block length: " length? a "Bytes used: " ((length? a) * 16) ] ] | |
Gabriele 24-May-2007 [2974x2] | henrik, with recycle/off, no memory is ever reused, and obviously rebol is constantly allocating memory for temporary values and so on. so used memory grows. when you do a recycle, the gc will collect all the garbage and start reusing it for later allocations, so that memory used stops to grow until you get to the same point as before and rebol needs more memory. |
recycle never releases memory to the system (afaik) because that's usually inefficient, better to keep it for future usage. | |
Henrik 24-May-2007 [2976] | Thanks for the explanation |
Oldes 24-May-2007 [2977] | never? maybe it would be good to have some way how to force rebol to release what does not require from time-to-time. That's probably the reason why my nonstop running server requires 5MB instead of 3MB when was started. |
Henrik 24-May-2007 [2978] | I just think there should be better clarity on what are do's and don'ts in terms of how to preserve memory and have a stable application at the same time. Some apps of mine never eat more than 3-5 MB RAM, while others eat 250 MB RAM, and I don't know what causes it. |
Gabriele 24-May-2007 [2979] | Oldes, unless the OS is really broken there is no need to release memory, because unused memory just gets paged out. |
Anton 25-May-2007 [2980x2] | Gabriele, could you please add this note to #3867: Update: I now understand that the events trickle down in a dynamic fashion and it cannot be known (for certain) at the beginning whether an event will arrive at a particular face, as DETECT functions along the way to the face can alter the route. -Anton |
And I think the Importance should be lowered from Critical. | |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2982x2] | i think there was a reason for it being critical... hmm. |
anyway - you're right, but even though the target face may never be reached, if it is known already it would be good to have it there for many reasons. | |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2984] | why couldn't 4275 be fixed? Should be easy enough! |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2985] | because the ticket was created much after the list for 2.7.6 was created :-) |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2986x3] | oh :( |
Why can't we get a directory requestor? | |
system ... | |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2989] | maybe we should follow reichart's bug fixing rules... but i can't redo the list ten times... |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2990] | when is the next bug fix cycle? |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2991] | dir req.......... R3. |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2992] | who gets to see R3 on the first of Jun ? |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2993x2] | next bug fix - no idea. depends on Carl's time. |
i don't think there's a fixed list that has been written yet. | |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2995] | Ahh.. the Carl bottleneck problem. |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2996] | (personally i want it to be dynamic. like adding people when i have some vid stuff to show.) |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2997] | So, is chord ready for R3 ? :) |
Gabriele 25-May-2007 [2998] | i actually want to try that out before july... but not sure i'll have the time. |
Graham 25-May-2007 [2999x2] | Shall I create a R3 list here then ? :( |
:) | |
Pekr 25-May-2007 [3001] | R3 list initial release - BrianH, Anton, Volker, Henrik, Ashley, Graham, Gregg, Dockimbel, Sunanda, btiffin ... simply ppl who are skilled, and/or actively use Rebol with own projects ... |
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