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[Core] Discuss core issues

Dockimbel
1-Jun-2005
[1166]
Does anyone know if REBOL runs on Windows CE.NET 4.2 ? I'd need to 
use REBOL on that platform but I don't have access to a CE.NET terminal 
and can't use an emulator because there's no REBOL WinCE x86 binary.
ChristianE
1-Jun-2005
[1167]
This probably is a silly question, but ... What is the benefit of 
DO GET IN OBJECT WORD over just writing OBJECT/WORD ? 

I see this a lot in VIEW source (e.g. in DO-FACE) and related guru 
sources. I really don't see the point of doing so, be there *must* 
be a reason. Anyone willing to educate me? Is this a path evaluation 
issue?
JaimeVargas
1-Jun-2005
[1168]
Maybe the word is dynamic?
ChristianE
1-Jun-2005
[1169]
Oh, sorry, typo here: should have read DO GET IN OBJECT 'WORD - it's 
LIT-WORD!, actually.

Of course, there *are* differences, e.g. OBJECT/WORD doesn't throw 
an error if WORD is unset. But I'm uncertain on the exact reason 
why that idiom is used.
JaimeVargas
1-Jun-2005
[1170]
Dynamic dispatch of code, if the slot exist.
ChristianE
1-Jun-2005
[1171]
Still don't get it. Both 


 do-face: func [face value][do get in face 'action face either value 
 [value] [face/data]]

 do-face: func [face value][face/action face either value [value] 
 [face/data]]

seem to work.
JaimeVargas
1-Jun-2005
[1172x3]
o1: context [
    init: [print "Init code for o1"]
    eval: [print "Eval code for o1"]
    end: [print "End code for o1"]
]

o2: context [
    init: [print "Init code for o2"]
    eval: [print "Eval code for o2"]
]

eval-obj: func [obj][
    do get in obj 'init
    do get in obj 'eval
    do get in obj 'end
]

eval-obj o1
eval-obj o2
In your example the face may not have an action slot.
Therefor throwing an error instead of graceful fail.
ChristianE
1-Jun-2005
[1175x2]
Oh, thanks, now it's all clear. I tried with setting WORD to any 
value I could image, but not with object without WORD. As always, 
so simple, so obvious! Thanks again.
Kind of obvious after someone makes it obvious to me, though ;-)
JaimeVargas
1-Jun-2005
[1177]
That seems to be the norm with Rebol. But we are so trained to look 
for complex explanations that we skip the path of less surprise.
BrianH
1-Jun-2005
[1178]
Plus, the behavior of object/word depends upon what datatype the 
word is set to and (for some datatypes) which version of REBOL you 
are running. If WORD is set to a block, OBJECT/WORD is the same as 
GET IN OBJECT 'WORD, while if WORD is set to a function, or sometimes 
a path or paren, it means DO GET IN OBJECT 'WORD. By spelling out 
what you want to do, you won't be as tied to variances in REBOL path 
evaluation and your code can be more general.
Gabriele
2-Jun-2005
[1179]
The real reason, most of the times, is what Brian says above: if 
you want to get a function value instead of evaluating it.
ChristianE
2-Jun-2005
[1180]
Yes, Gabriele, that's what I supposed it's all about, but since in 
the places I've seen it, the function weren't used as first class 
values, but rather evalutated. Jaime pointed me to another reason: 
the GET IN variant doesn't break if an object doesn't feature the 
wanted "slot". That really makes sense where code can't be too sure 
about the objects it handles.


Actually, though the guru code I mentioned was some of your changes 
to the view event- and modal system (I'm still working my way thru 
it, trying to understand it's pickier details) and other view related 
code snippets from cyphre, I'd really thought I'd better ask in core 
group, since it may come down to a more broader misconception of 
path evalutation I had. I'm happy to see that it's "only" the point 
Jamie made which I overlooked.
Gabriele
2-Jun-2005
[1181x4]
yes, the main point is that you are safer, whatever value is in the 
object. note that if the word is not available just using get in 
will break anyway in "older" versions.
>> system/version
== 1.2.8.3.1
>> obj: context [a: 1 b: 2]
>> get in obj 'c
** Script Error: get expected word argument of type: any-word
** Near: get in obj 'c
recent versions will not complain in this case (GET accepts NONE 
too)
i think in the VID case, the code is written that way so that it 
works correclty not only if face/action is a function, but also if 
it is a block (as it was in earlier versions of VID)
Guest
5-Jun-2005
[1185]
http: -> Circular forwarding is there any stable solution yet to 
avoid endless loops ? have tried to set different flaggs within the 
schemes object but can't  stop den endless loop. even read the messages-boards 
and found some hints but these doesn't work either. is there no flagg 
to set to prevend forwarding ? any hint are welcome... thanks
Gabriele
5-Jun-2005
[1186]
can you check port/locals/list? what do you get there?
Guest
5-Jun-2005
[1187]
hi gabriele, thx for reply. if I open the port, the loop instant 
apears. the only way to stop is to press escape... after this the 
port has no value.
Micha
5-Jun-2005
[1188x8]
rebol [ title: "SOCKS SERWER" ]

conn: make port! tcp://:800

proxy: make object! [ host: 208.59.117.69
                      port: 2988  ]



black-lista: [ 69.64.51.223 194.69.207.145 80.252.0.145 194.69.207.165 
217.73.17.115]




adns: open/no-wait make port! dns:///async

adns/awake: func [port /local data][                
		
		data: copy port

                print data
		
		false 
	]				

insert tail system/ports/wait-list adns





heandler: func [ port /local data dns  serwer client]

               [ serwer: first port

                          
 wait serwer
             
data: copy serwer
;data: make string! 10000
;read-io serwer data 10000
print ["data1" to-binary data]

dns: to-tuple copy/part skip to-binary  data 4 4  

insert adns dns ;print dns name



either find black-lista dns [ close serwer  print "firtled" print 
read join dns:// dns ]
                           
                            [ print "new connetion"

insert serwer  join #{005A} [debase/base  skip to-hex serwer/port-id 
4 16 to-binary dns ] 


client: make port! [ scheme: 'tcp 
                     host: system/words/proxy/host
                     port-id: system/words/proxy/port
]



;insert tail system/ports/timeout-list client

      open/no-wait/binary/async/direct client :response


client/sub-port: serwer





insert tail system/ports/wait-list  client

client/date: data

serwer/sub-port: client

serwer/awake: :request









] 



       false         
]




request: func [ port /local data  f ] 

              [ data: make string! 10000
               read-io port data 10000


if f: find data "GET /favicon.ico" [ insert port "HTTP/1.1 404 Not 
Found" 
                                      print "favicon.ico"]
 


                either (data <> {}) and not f [     print [ "data3" data  ]
                              

                                if error? try [    write-io port/sub-port data length? data ][ print 
                                "error: close serwer"]
                                   ; insert port/sub-port data 
]

                            [  close port 

                              remove find system/ports/wait-list port port
                               close port/sub-port

                              remove find system/ports/wait-list port/sub-port port/sub-port
                              print "close connetion client"

                               print length? system/ports/wait-list
                               ]

               false]




       
   


  
response: func [ port e a /local data  f  ] 

               [  switch e [ open [ insert port port/date ]
                                    
                             read [ data: copy/part port a

                                   either ( a <> 8 ) [write-io port/sub-port data length? data] 

                                                     [  insert tail system/ports/wait-list  port/sub-port ]
                                    ]
                                     
                             close [ close port 

                                     remove find system/ports/wait-list port port
                                     close port/sub-port

                                     remove find system/ports/wait-list port/sub-port port/sub-port

                                       print "close connetion serwer"

                                      print length? system/ports/wait-list]
 

                          ]   ]


start: func [] [

conn: make port! tcp://:800

conn/awake: :heandler

set-modes conn [no-wait: false]

insert tail system/ports/wait-list  conn

open/no-wait/direct/binary conn ]


stop: func [][ close conn
               remove find system/ports/wait-list conn]

set-proxy: func [ h p ] [ proxy/host: h
                          proxy/port: p ]
                          


print "proxy"

lay:  layout [ backdrop blue
              across  h3  red "PROXY" f: field 145 
              return
              button green "start" [ p: parse f/text  ":"
                                     remove find p "" 

                                     set-proxy  to-tuple p/1  to-integer p/2
                                     source p
                                    
                                     start]
              button  green "stop" [f/text: "" stop ] ]

view/offset lay 4x29 
halt
I ask about help .
to improve someone  this programme maybe ?
in order to he was better .
jak napisaæ serwer  tunel : client - socks - http proxy - serwer 
?
how to write server  tunnel : client - socks - http proxy - server 
?
1. firefox  connet socks serwer .
2. socks serwer connett proxy serwer .
3. proxy serwer connet internet
to pass someone code of such application maybe ?
Gabriele
6-Jun-2005
[1196x2]
Guest: you can try: port: make port! http://yoururlopen port  
 (after pressing esc you can access port/locals/list)
otherwise, just try with trace/net on. you'll get a lot of output 
but surely the answer will be there somehow.
Ammon
6-Jun-2005
[1198]
Does anyone else find the fact that encloak/decloak CHANGES the 'data 
value passed to them confusing?  It sure has caused me quite a bit 
of headache!
Vincent
6-Jun-2005
[1199]
encloak/decloak : I think it's a good thing for security. You don't 
want having both encrypted and unencrypted data in memory. Modifying 
the data assure that the unencrypted string isn't available anymore 
(if you don't explicitly copy it.)
Ammon
6-Jun-2005
[1200]
Ah, I see.  That makes sense.
Sunanda
6-Jun-2005
[1201]
And it works the same way as replace or uppercase -- directly on 
the data.
Guest
6-Jun-2005
[1202]
rebol newby needs pop script to delete 1000 bounces from mailer daemon 
(was spam attacked) need to be able to delete emails based on subject 
or from to pattern. Thanks for any pointers or direction to sample 
script
Graham
6-Jun-2005
[1203x3]
the problem with the standard rebol pop protocol is that it doesn't 
allow you to download the headers only.
DideC has a script somewhere that allows you to examine your mail 
box and delete selected email.
I do too, but mine is part of a larger anti-spam package.
http://membres.lycos.fr/didec/rebsite/delete-emails/delete-emails3.0.0.html
Guest
7-Jun-2005
[1206]
thanks Graham. this looks pretty neat . i may be able to use some 
of this code. i just need a simple script that connects to pop, loops 
through emails and checks each one for pattern in subject and deletes 
it if it matches. thanks again.
Graham
7-Jun-2005
[1207x2]
your're welcome guest
In most cases, where some spam has been bounced back to you as the 
account does not exist, the first line of the email says something 
like

Return-Path: <>

The <> is a special null email address to stop mail loops.


So, if you check all your email for this first line, then you should 
be able to delete all the automated bounces.
yeksoon
10-Jun-2005
[1209]
what is the correct way to handle vector arithmeitc? Or rather, is 
there an easy way to show vector arithmetic

eg.
2 * [2, 3, 4] .... results should be [6, 8, 10]
MikeL
10-Jun-2005
[1210]
You could use Andrew Martin's map function to achieve this

do http://www.rebol.org/library/scripts-download/arguments.r; 
Needs

do http://www.rebol.org/library/scripts-download/map.r; Instantiate
map func [a][2 * a] [1 2 3 4 5 6] ; supply the function to map
>>[2 4 6 8 10 12]
Gregg
10-Jun-2005
[1211]
You might also check out Ladislav's matrix functions: http://www.fm.vslib.cz/~ladislav/rebol/#section-6
MichaelAppelmans
11-Jun-2005
[1212x4]
trying to open a pop mailbox with nonstandard password with the following 
code:
REBOL []
 mailbox: open [
        scheme: 'pop
        user: "myname"
        pass: "%$100k"
        host: "mydomain.com"
    ]

foreach message mailbox [
    print message
    ask "Next? "
]
close mail
I get the following error when I do this: ** Script Error: foreach 
expected data argument of type: series
** Near: foreach message mailbox [
    print message
    ask "Next? "
]
close
this is from a simple example in the script library with the only 
modification being an open block instead of a single line open. Thanks 
for any insight.