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BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12147] | This is true for R3 and 2.7.6+ at least. |
[unknown: 5] 21-Jan-2009 [12148x2] | Not an issue really. Good think about REBOL is you can usually find a workaround. |
I just noticed this group is web-public. Shouldn't this be a bit more closed as often bugs and such are discussed here. | |
Sunanda 21-Jan-2009 [12150] | Given RAMBO, the R2 bug database, is web available it should not be too much of a problem: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r |
[unknown: 5] 21-Jan-2009 [12151] | I think what Brian is saying is that it isn't a bug issue. Just a gotcha. |
BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12152x4] | I make it a point to not discuss bugs with security implications in web-public groups. Otherwise it is better to let people know. |
BACKPORTS! Hot off the presses! Get your new R3 functions, now here for R2! Available now, before the next release! funct: make function! [ [catch] "Defines a user function assuming all set-words are locals." spec [block!] "Help string (opt) followed by arg words (and opt type and string)" body [block!] "The body block of the function" /local r ws wb a ][ spec: copy/deep spec body: copy/deep body ws: make block! length? spec parse spec [any [ set a [word! | refinement!] (insert tail ws to-word a) | skip ]] wb: copy ws parse body r: [any [ set a set-word! ( unless find wb a: to-word a [insert tail wb a] ) | hash! | into r | skip ]] unless empty? wb: difference ws wb [ remove find wb 'local unless find spec /local [insert tail spec /local] insert tail spec wb ] throw-on-error [make function! spec body] ] functor: make function! [ [catch] "Defines a user function with all set-words collected into a persistent object (self)." spec [block!] "Help string (opt) followed by arg words (and opt type and string)" body [block!] "The body block of the function" /local r wb a ][ ; Note: Words in the spec override the bindings of the object words. wb: copy [] parse body r: [any [ set a set-word! (unless find wb a [insert tail wb a]) | hash! | into r | skip ]] remove find wb [self:] throw-on-error [make function! copy/deep spec bind/copy body construct wb] ] | |
Obviously the R3 versions are faster, smaller and more efficient, but the meaning is the same. And you can use them now in R2. | |
The first, FUNCT, implements Ruby-style local variables without any explicit declaration needed. The second implements static locals. | |
Steeve 21-Jan-2009 [12156x2] | we need FUNCTARD which converts all words in locals. |
(joke) | |
BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12158] | *TARD indeed, because such a function wouldn't be able to call external functions, not even DO :) |
Steeve 21-Jan-2009 [12159x2] | ahah... |
arghhh... rebdev is bugging.... Carl what have you done !!!!???? :-) | |
BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12161] | It might interest you to know that all event handlers in the R3 GUI are created with the R3 version of FUNCT. |
Steeve 21-Jan-2009 [12162] | event handlers are my next assignement i have some new ideas too |
BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12163] | They are declared as code blocks in R3, not functions, and then turned into functions using a fixed spec and FUNCT. Safer that way. |
Steeve 21-Jan-2009 [12164x3] | like actors in scheme i begin to know well that behavior |
btw, i know some optimisations on the make-port intrinsic function, it's an old one currently | |
humm... what i said is not clear | |
[unknown: 5] 21-Jan-2009 [12167] | Static locals. I love it. |
BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [12168] | R3 has changed SET to allow [set-word:] arguments so that they can be used with functions like FUNCT and FUNCTOR. R2 not (yet?). |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [12169] | Cool functions Brian. |
BrianH 22-Jan-2009 [12170] | Yeah, I wrote them this evening (with helpful criticism from Steeve. I also wrote the R3 version of FUNCTOR. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [12171x3] | Excellent, maybe these need to be added to list in the 2.7.7 world. |
forgot the name of that world. | |
r2-beta is that world. | |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [12174x6] | Rebol looks totally consistent to me in Paul's example above, the key to that result is that rebol doesn't automatically evaluate (reduce) blocks -- which is the key properti of rebol that makes most of it's things possible. This is how I see it : |
>> b: 'test ;; line gets evaluated , b already holds a word! == test >> append a :b ;; word get's added to serries == [test] >> type? first a == word! >> find a 'test ;; 'test get's evaluated into a word again so find finds it in block == [test] >> c: ['test] ;; 'test is in a block and of course doesn't get evaluated as any other thing in a block wouldn't so it stays lit-word! == ['test] | |
if you want a block to get evalueated you should reduce it, then it will also find it | |
>>c: reduce ['test] | |
or >>c: [test] | |
BrianH and others : you made such great word (and ported it to mezzaine - I still have no idea what that is :) ) of the word map (as in functional programming ) ... did you maybe or is there any chance that its sister function reduce or fold or fold-left could be made in such a way.. I use your map a lot now but I have to use my poor fold word for folds :) | |
Will 24-Jan-2009 [12180] | on OS X and Linux, for every instance of rebol , 2 processes are launched, the second for dns, right? is there any known bug? I have an difficult to debug situation , when quitting cheyenne after some load, some handler process goes 100% cpu, but the dns process is no more there, this make me think it may be a problem with rebol, otherwise also if one process would go 100% CPU, the dns one would still be present, help!! 8) |
Will 25-Jan-2009 [12181x2] | I'm not sure I understand what call/show introduced in 2.7.6 does? |
got a partial answer from here http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4113 is that window specific? | |
Oldes 25-Jan-2009 [12183] | When you did call, the black cmd window was always visible. Now you must do call/show to see the window (which you mostly don't want to see) And I think this was just Windows change. I'm not sure how it worls on Linux or in other OSes. |
Will 25-Jan-2009 [12184x5] | thank you Oldes, I may do nothing on linux/osx |
have this 2 bugs been fixed in 2.7.6 ? are they bordercases, difficult to reproduce/debug? http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4153& http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4003& | |
both bugs have window as platform but I'm investigating a similar issue to 4153 on os x | |
I may -> it may .. | |
I'm on 2.7.6 os x , symtom is rebol just goes mad using up 100% CPU and never quits , using "ktrace -p processid" generate an empty ktrace.out | |
Oldes 25-Jan-2009 [12189x2] | And how do you start the script? Do you use -cs switch? |
Because call is asking security question if you don't run rebol with at least -s switch | |
Will 25-Jan-2009 [12191x2] | -qs, the problem is when doing a ctrl-c on running cheyenne (not always, mostly after some load) traying hard to have a 100% repoducible code but nothing yet, hard |
not even sure the problem is with call, what is sure is cpu goes full, the dns help process quit ok, ktrace on that process return nothing | |
Oldes 25-Jan-2009 [12193x2] | I'm testing it now with cheyenne and it seems not to be working... even if I do: print "Content-type: text/html^/" tmp: copy "" call/output/wait "dir" tmp probe tmp |
CPU is fine here.. just the output is missing and there is error: Error Code : 300 Description : script error ! tmpnone has no value Near : [probe tmpnone] Where : protect-code | |
Will 25-Jan-2009 [12195] | sorry I may have been more clear, the code is in uni-engine.r, this line: call/show join form to-local-file system/options/boot [" -qs " cmd] not in a RSP, and not sure at all the problem is with call... 8/ |
Oldes 25-Jan-2009 [12196] | the above is not in RSP either.. it's as a cgi script. Cheyenne is not only RSP:) |
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