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[Core] Discuss core issues

BrianH
23-Feb-2009
[12751]
FYI: R2-Forward is currently usable from a DO call, prebol (the SDK 
preprocessot) or Gabriele's R2 module system.
Henrik
23-Feb-2009
[12752x2]
It's about half done and I have a bunch of code files for this. I 
was going to use it for a large VID project, but it has been dropped, 
cutting away 6 months of work for me (phew!).
BrianH, what happened to the idea of including prebol in R3? And 
if it goes in, would it be included in R2-Forward?
BrianH
23-Feb-2009
[12754x2]
A1: Still under discussion, and won't happen before the module rework. 
A2: Yes.
For that matter, after the module rework so will modules, to the 
extent that I can do it. Probably based on Gabriele's code if I can 
convince him to MIT it - his code is currently BSD, and BSD's non-promotion 
clause may be at odds with the extensive attribution I've put in 
R2-Forward. That's why I used MIT: BSD licensing is too restrictive.
Henrik
23-Feb-2009
[12756]
interesting
BrianH
23-Feb-2009
[12757x2]
You can't give people credit for their work or ideas if you can't 
use their name.
You're in there, Henrik, credit for your initial GATHER proposal.
[unknown: 5]
23-Feb-2009
[12759]
Carl stated at one time that he preferred our works being BSD licensed.
BrianH
23-Feb-2009
[12760]
Carl is not a lawyer, but he knows that you can't encap LGPL2 or 
GPL2 code. MIT is less restrictive than BSD, so it's Ok.
[unknown: 5]
23-Feb-2009
[12761x2]
Well, then I think he would favor the least restrictive model then.
Maybe he didn't know much about MIT model or maybe it has evolved 
since he made that comment.
BrianH
23-Feb-2009
[12763x6]
That would be public domain.
I wanted to disclaim implied warrantees, so I chose MIT instead of 
public domain.
BTW, "you can't encap LGPL2 or GPL2 code" means that you can't do 
so even if you *do* provide the source. Incompatible licenses.
The same goes for pre-open-source Java and .NET code on the MS runtime 
instead of Mono: No GPL2 code, and no static linking of LGPL2 code, 
even if you do provide the source. You gotta use an exception like 
Classpath to use (L)GPL2. (L)GPL3 fixes this.
That license restriction is the reason Carl suggested BSD at most.
(bbl)
MaxV
23-Feb-2009
[12769x6]
Hello every body! I can't understand copy with series:
Example:
a: [ "23" "Feb" "2008"]
b: copy a
insert b/2 "-"
(a== [ "23" "-Feb" "2008"])  a IS MODIFIED, why?
Henrik
23-Feb-2009
[12775]
each string in the block is also a series. for your problem to be 
solved, you must use copy/deep.
MaxV
23-Feb-2009
[12776]
wow, thanks. Now I understand rebol put inside the second elemet 
"-" and not between the first and the second.
Henrik
23-Feb-2009
[12777]
ah, it does that for a different reason than you might think. b/2 
references the second string itself, not the index in the block where 
the second string is.

you may want to do something like:

insert at a 2 '-


If you don't want to destroy 'a, copy it first, but in this case 
/deep is not necessary, as you wouldn't be affecting the strings 
in the block, only their positions.
Gabriele
24-Feb-2009
[12778]
Probably based on Gabriele's code if I can convince him to MIT it 
- his code is currently BSD, and BSD's non-promotion clause may be 
at odds with the extensive attribution I've put in R2-Forward. That's 
why I used MIT: BSD licensing is too restrictive.

 - Brian, first, you are being paranoid about BSD, second, the license 
 for my code has not been decided yet and I have no preference for 
 BSD over MIT over anything else.
Graham
24-Feb-2009
[12779]
You might have seen this license too ... http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/
Rebolek
24-Feb-2009
[12780]
that's licence I really like
BenBran
26-Feb-2009
[12781]
anyone know how I can talk to a UNC path on the network

files: recursive-Read %//bens2000as/c$/myTestDir
[unknown: 5]
26-Feb-2009
[12782]
Benbran try this:

%servername/sharename/
BenBran
26-Feb-2009
[12783]
bummer:
** Access Error: Cannot open /C/rebol/local/bens2000as/c$/mysql/
Gregg
26-Feb-2009
[12784]
Dont use double slashes at the head.
Graham
26-Feb-2009
[12785x3]
You can always take a windows path, or UNC path and convert it

to-rebol-file \\bens2000as\c$\myTestdir
needs quotes around the windows path

]
>> to-rebol-file "\\bens2000as\c$\myTestdir"
== %/bens2000as/c$/myTestdir
note the single leading "/"
Gregg
26-Feb-2009
[12788]
Excellent point Graham.
BenBran
26-Feb-2009
[12789]
that worked!  thank you folks!!

to-rebol-file has been the answer before, I really need to remember 
that one. :-)
[unknown: 5]
27-Feb-2009
[12790x3]
Nice little function for you math guys:


max-summands: func [n /local i][i: 0 until [i: i + 1 n: n - i n < 
i] i]
Small but significant fix:


max-summands: func [n /local i][i: 0 until [i: i + 1 n: n - i n <= 
i] i]
This function will return a number that corresponds to the maximum 
summands that can result in the sum of the number without repeating. 
 For example:

1 + 2 + 3 = 6


therefore it would have a value of 3 since their is 3 numbers added 
together.

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10
Maxim
27-Feb-2009
[12793]
just be mindfull about the unc paths... any local root dir which 
has the same name as a machine will take precedence...  I have been 
bitten by this on linux. 


I really wish rebol left the double \\ as double // on the root or 
if it had a real machine name separator.  which translated to whatever 
local path it equates to (UNC most probably).
Graham
3-Mar-2009
[12794x4]
Anyone have an idea of what might be causing this problem?

make object! [
   code: 331
   type: 'script
   id: 'call-fail
   arg1: "The system cannot find the path specified.^M^/"
   arg2: none
   arg3: none
   near: [browse/only join http://127.0.0.1:8002/ url]
   where: 'browse-local
]
Cheyenne is listening on port 8002 and gives a 404 if a browser is 
used.
call-fail means what??  That rebol can't find the browser?
I don't have access to this person's PC so I can't test it :(
Gregg
4-Mar-2009
[12798]
My guess is the same as yours on the error Graham, though I've never 
seen it myself.
Dockimbel
4-Mar-2009
[12799]
>> help system/error/script/call-fail

SYSTEM/ERROR/SCRIPT/CALL-FAIL is a block of value: ["External process 
failed:" :arg1]
Graham
4-Mar-2009
[12800]
I've asked the user to install Firefox and make it the default browser 
to see if that helps.