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Rebolek
15-Jul-2005
[1532x4]
I've got a question. I don't know how to describe it, so here is 
the code
>> a: context [b: 1 c: does [b: b + 1]]
>> f: func [fn][loop 100 [fn]]
>> a/c
== 2
>> f a/c
== 3
>> f get in a 'c
== 103
Why there's difference between f a/c and f get in a 'c
I think they should behave same, shouldn't they?
Allen
15-Jul-2005
[1536x2]
I don't see why they should be the same. 

One is using path evaluation to execute c, the other is asking for 
the value of c.
> type? get in a 'c
== function!
Rebolek
15-Jul-2005
[1538]
OK thanks, I'll do it another way
Gabriele
15-Jul-2005
[1539]
volker: i think that rule always applies if you want to be safe. 
you never know what someone could be doing to work around your safety; 
more checks means safer.
[unknown: 5]
17-Jul-2005
[1540]
anyone know what the 'run function does?  I always get a message 
that its not available in this version of rebol but I am using sdk 
so not sure why.
Sunanda
17-Jul-2005
[1541x2]
In Command:
>> help run
USAGE:
    RUN file /as suffix
DESCRIPTION:
     Runs the system application associated with a file.
     RUN is a native value.
ARGUMENTS:

     file -- The file to open (file, URL) or command to run (string). 
     (Type: file url string)
REFINEMENTS:
     /as
         suffix -- (Type: string file)
Though having just tried it......it didn't work either.
Looks like an older name for call
Graham
17-Jul-2005
[1543x2]
it's not.
run will call a native application to open the file in question eg. 
acrobat reader for pdf files.

It is only enabled on IOS .. I have asked RT why it can't be enabled 
for the sdk as well.
[unknown: 5]
18-Jul-2005
[1545]
Yes Graham that is what it looks like to me as well - looks similiar 
to a winshellexecute function.  Would be good for them to activate 
it as that would be a very good function to have.
Carl
19-Jul-2005
[1546]
And, perhaps even REBOL View too eh?
[unknown: 5]
19-Jul-2005
[1547]
Ahhh not complaint here Carl.
Rebolek
21-Jul-2005
[1548x2]
Is this OK? And if yes, then why?
>> x: context [d: does [print e]]
>> y: make x [e: 1]
>> y/e
== 1
>> y/d
** Script Error: e has no value
** Where: d
** Near: print e
Cyphre
21-Jul-2005
[1550]
yes, this is OK
Rebolek
21-Jul-2005
[1551]
and why?
Cyphre
21-Jul-2005
[1552x2]
because you refer to word 'e with global context
>>  x: context [d: does [print self/e]]
>>  y: make x [e: 1]
>> y/d
1
Rebolek
21-Jul-2005
[1554]
ok I see
Cyphre
21-Jul-2005
[1555x2]
In this case it would work:
>> x: context [e: 5 d: does [print e]]
>> y: make x [e: 1]
>> y/d
1
because the 'e in function d would be bound to the context of the 
object (self)
Rebolek
21-Jul-2005
[1557x2]
yes I know, I needed it when extending objects
so I'll use 'self or define everything in advance
Cyphre
21-Jul-2005
[1559]
If you use 'self you are safe rearding contexts IMO.
Ladislav
21-Jul-2005
[1560x2]
if you want to extend context, you might want to try associative 
array instead
or a "dynamic" object like o: make object! [data: make object! [x: 
1]]

usage:

>> o/data/x
== 1
>> o/data: make o/data [y: 5]
>> o/data/x
== 1
>> o/data/y
== 5
Joe
23-Jul-2005
[1562]
.
Ingo
25-Jul-2005
[1563x4]
Q1: I want to replace all 'none in a block with _different_ empty 
strings, what's the fastest way to do this?

(replace/all BLOCK none ""       replaces all 'none with the same 
empty string)
Q2: I have to blocks containing strings, and want to find out which 
of these strings differ (I need all differing positions), what do 
you think is the fastest way to achieve this?
Thanks in advance for all ideas!
PS. Do you, like me, feel that the replace way of doing things is 
questionable?
Volker
25-Jul-2005
[1567]
b: ["s1" "s2" "s3" "s1"]
parse b[any[to "s1" p: (p/1: copy "t0") skip]]
? b
Ingo
25-Jul-2005
[1568]
Q2 again: Sorry, my axplanaition was a little unclear: 

I have a row from a database, and store away one block, and display 
the other for the user. The user may, or may not, change the data.
>> orig: ["Mr" "Petr" "Ustinov"]
>> data: ["Sir" "Peter" "Ustinov"]
>> magic-changed-func orig data
== [1 2]
Volker
25-Jul-2005
[1569]
orig: ["Mr" "Petr" "Ustinov"]
data: ["Sir" "Peter" "Ustinov"]
; same length !
out: copy[]
repeat i length? orig [ 
	if orig/:i <> data/:i [
		append out i
	]
] 
? out
BrianH
25-Jul-2005
[1570x3]
Q1:use [x] [
Sorry
Q1:
use [x] [
    x: block
    while [x: find x none!] [change x copy ""]
]
Anton
26-Jul-2005
[1573x2]
Ingo, I have similar feelings too sometimes. I need a higher level 
function to do some things like that, but it's not there....
I often wanted reduce and compose to not make a copy for you, but 
work directly on the block. (Perhaps new functions "induce" and "impose" 
?)
Sunanda
26-Jul-2005
[1575]
induce should be fairly easy -- walk the block with 'for and 'poke 
back the value
Anton
26-Jul-2005
[1576x3]
blk: [a b c] 
format: [(1 + 2) (random 100) c]

impose: func [blk format][repeat n length? format [if paren? format/:n 
[poke blk n do format/:n]]]
impose blk format
;blk == [3 95 c]
For induce I think I would use do/next.
induce: func [blk format][change blk reduce format]  ; (except, as 
a native!, without creating a temporary block)
induce blk [1 + 2 random 100 'c]
; == [3 67 c]
Ingo
26-Jul-2005
[1579x2]
Hi Voker, BrianH, thanks for your ideas ... they look mighty long 
compared to normal Rebol code ;-)
Sorry, I wanted to type Volker, of course!
Brett
26-Jul-2005
[1581]
; Q1: copy/deep will give you new strings:
block: [none none none]
new-block: copy/deep replace/all block 'none {}