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Steeve 16-Apr-2010 [16352] | See that weird one :) cidr-match?: funct [address [tuple!] network [tuple!] bits [integer!]] [ mask: to-tuple skip to-binary (shift -1 32 - bits) 4 mask and address xor network = .0. ] |
BrianH 16-Apr-2010 [16353] | Andreas, I'm sure my function is flawed - I just came up with it right then. Thanks for the fix :) |
Steeve 16-Apr-2010 [16354] | rather optimized... cidr-match?: funct [address [tuple!] network [tuple!] bits [integer!]] [ mask: to-tuple to-binary shift -1 64 - bits mask and address xor network = .0. ] |
Andreas 16-Apr-2010 [16355] | Heh, that's great Steeve. Esp the ".0." |
Steeve 16-Apr-2010 [16356] | yeah, .0. = 0.0.0 = 0.0.0.0.0 ... |
Andreas 16-Apr-2010 [16357] | Yeah :) |
BrianH 16-Apr-2010 [16358x2] | Yeah, silly me, forgot about SHIFT :) |
That should work on R2 with 32 instead of 64. | |
Steeve 16-Apr-2010 [16360] | Yup |
Andreas 16-Apr-2010 [16361] | Nope. You'd need shift/left on R2 |
Steeve 16-Apr-2010 [16362] | He knew... :) |
Andreas 16-Apr-2010 [16363] | Just a reminder :) |
BrianH 16-Apr-2010 [16364x2] | The last time I did IP calculations in REBOL was before 2.7.6 came out, so the reminder is appreciated :) |
Though your functions do indicate the value of using REBOL's datatypes properly. Take note, Pekr, no strings :) | |
Pekr 17-Apr-2010 [16366x2] | wow, what a bunch of reactions :-) BrianH - I used strings, because of original Mikrotik format. They use 10.10.10.10/24 format for IP, so it was easier for me to carry around in a string form, then parse it later when needed .... IP arithmetics, and ranges would be 2 nice new datatypes for REBOL imo :-) |
Steeve - your optimised version for R2 does not work correctly: >> cidr-match? 10.10.10.10 10.10.10.0 24 == false | |
Steeve 17-Apr-2010 [16368] | Because it was for R3 only, try this for R2: cidr-match?: func [address [tuple!] network [tuple!] bits [integer!]] [ address xor network and (to-tuple debase/base to-hex shift/left -1 32 - bits 16) = .0. ] Don't know if it's faster than Andreas's, though |
ChristianE 17-Apr-2010 [16369] | (-:-:- = -:0:-) = (0:-:0 = 0:0:0) |
Steeve 17-Apr-2010 [16370x2] | -:- |
and so: +:+ | |
Henrik 18-Apr-2010 [16372] | I'm trying to figure out which index comes earlier in two different references to the same block and was trying with MIN and MAX, because I didn't want to resort to LESSER? INDEX? things. The result with MIN/MAX doesn't seem to be particularly useful. What is the basis of comparison of two blocks when using MIN and MAX? |
BrianH 18-Apr-2010 [16373] | Their contents, not their indexes. |
Henrik 18-Apr-2010 [16374] | yes, I figure that, but what's the basis for comparison? |
Steeve 18-Apr-2010 [16375] | ... |
ChristianE 18-Apr-2010 [16376] | Their first elements, as in >> max [0 9 9] [2] == [2] |
Henrik 18-Apr-2010 [16377x2] | are you sure? >> min [b 1] [b b 2] == [b b 2] |
also because MIN and MAX don't compare on words, so there must be a different base of comparison. | |
ChristianE 18-Apr-2010 [16379] | >> min reduce [word! integer!] reduce [word! word! integer!] == [word! word! integer!] |
BrianH 18-Apr-2010 [16380x2] | MIN and MAX compare the spelling of words in blocks in R3. |
And it's not just the first element: >> min [b b] [b a] == [b a] | |
ChristianE 18-Apr-2010 [16382] | Henrik just showed that. |
BrianH 18-Apr-2010 [16383] | If the types aren't the same the datatypes are compared, by the arbitrary ordering they have in the type list (the datatype number). |
Gabriele 19-Apr-2010 [16384] | Henrik: it's the same as SORT |
Pekr 19-Apr-2010 [16385x2] | would it be possible to have more operators? In !Mikrotik group, I am trying do some stuff for MT routerOS API. Thanks to Anton, I can now proceed. When "studying" Python code, I found segment like: elif l < 0x4000: l |= 0x8000 1) they can directly compare 'l of integer type to binary value. But I might make wrong conclusion here. But 'l is really result of len('string here') operation. But - even if so, I don't miss such an automation, as I can always write if l = to-integer #{8000} 2) Second line is more interesting - I did not find precisely |=, but found e.g. /= ... and it translates like do some operation, and assign. In this regard, the only comparable operator of REBOL is ++ or --, but in R2 this is just mezzanine, in R3 native. But if I am right, their code: l |=0x8000 R3: l: (to-binary l) or #{8000} So, if I would assume 'l being of correct type already (binary here), would it be possible to have?: l |= #{8000} Hmm, that is not probably compatible with REBOL parser and REBOL's assigment operator, which is : |
If I am completly wrong, then please ignore me, I am not that much into the language design stuff :-) But why don't we at least have & for 'and, and | for 'or shortcuts? | |
Steeve 19-Apr-2010 [16387x2] | What's the gain ? |
Anyway, you can create your own alias. In R3 > |: :or &: :and In R2 > alias 'and "&" alias 'or "|" | |
Pekr 19-Apr-2010 [16389x2] | you could use the same (R3 way) aliasing aproach in R2 too, no? |
& and | are easy to add. The gain is to have apply & modify operation. Maybe there is no gain ... Simply instead of a = a + 10, you can write in python a += 10 in Python. | |
BrianH 19-Apr-2010 [16391x2] | User-defined operators are planned for R3, but for now you have to use one of the existing operators, possibly renamed. If you can switch to prefix ordering you are less limited. |
If R2 the built-in operators are special-cased in the DO function, so you can't do the renaming trick. | |
Pekr 19-Apr-2010 [16393] | Is there any bits converter in REBOL? Or not even in rebol? I mean - how do I get from 255 or FF to "11111111"? :-) |
BrianH 19-Apr-2010 [16394] | In R3: >> to-binary 255 == #{00000000000000FF} >> enbase/base to-binary 255 2 == {0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000011111111} >> enbase/base take/part/last to-binary 255 1 2 == "11111111" The to-binary part gets more difficult in R2 because of the aforementioned bugs in the semantic model. |
Steeve 19-Apr-2010 [16395] | R2: >> enbase/base #{FF} 2 == "11111111" |
BrianH 19-Apr-2010 [16396] | Steeve, the enbase isn't the problem in R2, it's the to-binary. |
Steeve 19-Apr-2010 [16397] | debase/base to-hex 255 16 |
BrianH 19-Apr-2010 [16398x2] | To do proper integer to binary conversions in R2 you can convert the individual octets of the integer to char and then convert them to binary. I'm sure Steeve has more solutions for that though. |
As he proved while I was waiting for the post to arrive :) | |
Pekr 19-Apr-2010 [16400] | thanks .... will try to mess with it. The bug in R3 preventing to join binarries is really bad ... |
BrianH 19-Apr-2010 [16401] | I just mentioned it in the a98 call for fixes blog. |
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