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Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16433x2] | thanks why didn't I think of that to close to the tree to see the forest :-/ |
yep much faster. :-) still /SAME has to be added to FIND. the search would be almost instantaneous (Relatively speaking, of course) if done natively. | |
Pekr 23-Apr-2010 [16435] | the same goes for /first (find first occurance in a block of multiple targets ... a long planned feature) |
Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16436] | you mean as in deep searching a tree of blocks ? |
Steeve 23-Apr-2010 [16437x2] | should be a little bit faster while [serie: find/tail serie item][ all [same? serie/-1 item return true] ] |
Optimization is a never ending story | |
Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16439] | Steeve, I think your major contribution to GLASS can be in optimising various things. |
Steeve 23-Apr-2010 [16440] | Or port it to R3 |
Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16441] | because of liquid's lazyness, very few things are actually optimised (really need to)... but right now I have a problem on initialization where there is so much linkeage being done, it does create a nagging pause on startup. I already know a few things that will greatly optimise liquid itself, and will implement speed minded plugs specifically for GLASS, but your input will be invaluable. you've spent sooo much time on this specific aspect of REBOL coding that it will come naturally to you. |
Steeve 23-Apr-2010 [16442] | Well, It will a pleasure :) Optimizing scripts is my hoby |
Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16443] | in the last 6 months, I've allready optimized liquid's kernel by a factor of at least 50 times I think I can speed it up at least 10x more. on specific points, I can probably improve it even more. that will probably come at increased memory use for some plugs though. |
Steeve 23-Apr-2010 [16444] | Propably some inspectors could be added in the flow to do some JIT compilation of your plugs ;-) |
Maxim 23-Apr-2010 [16445x5] | for example, I am thinking of building a !node and !container base plugs which cannot mutate into different processing mechanisms.... will all the removed overhead, that will make a BIG difference. it will require a bit more experience in handling liquid... but within controled environments like glass and glob, this can be a non-issue. |
yes. it would be exceedingly easy, since you have state information about things being clean or not, and liquid is 100% class based OOP (as opposed to prototype) so once a node has been defined, it can be freely JIT, since every reference to the instance is referenced, not bound. | |
which is why it used at least 100 times less RAM than it (and is 200 times faster) than would be under traditional REBOL object use. | |
with R3 I want to replace every part of the kernel with commands, but for that, we need access to the object! datatype within extensions (or host-kit). | |
AFAICT the next few extension release will allow some acces to context, so that might be the green light for me to go ahead and adapt my dataflow framework to R3. | |
Gregg 23-Apr-2010 [16450] | I wouldn't say We MUST add /SAME to FIND, though it could be useful in special cases. Another posssibility, though I want to think about it more before standing behind it, would be to allow AT to take an index value that is a reference. Hmmm, no, maybe not. It would then have to return NONE if the item wasn't in the block. Nevermind. |
Steeve 23-Apr-2010 [16451] | lol |
Tomc 23-Apr-2010 [16452x2] | find/at foo bar |
== NaN | |
revolucent 30-Apr-2010 [16454x3] | How can I check that a given value conforms to a typeset? E.g., If I say "make typeset! [string! integer!]" how can I check that the number 17 conforms to that typeset? |
I've written a recursive function to do it, but I wondered if there weren't some better way. | |
Never mind. I just issued "source any-string?" and got my answer: find typeset type? :value. Perfect. | |
Gregg 3-May-2010 [16457x2] | On MIN/MAX with pairs, sorry I wasn't clear. I do NOT think it's a bug. I use that behavior myself, and seem to recall it being discussed long ago. It may not be what you expect initially, but I think it's the right design choice. |
I just wanted to point it out in the context of pair comparisons. | |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16459x2] | how does one probe a map! ? |
(probably an R3 question) | |
Maxim 7-May-2010 [16461x2] | >> probe a make map! [ r 4 ] == make map! [ r 4 ] >> foreach [key value] a [print key] r >> a/e: 5 == 5 >> foreach [key value] a [print key] r e |
I just tried the most obvious and it worked. | |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16463] | >>foreach key a [print key] works too. |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16464] | how about this.. adding a variable as key in a map ie: n: make map![] b: 4398 n/b: "42" ; where b is 4398? |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16465x3] | n/:b: |
n/:b: | |
n/:b: | |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16468] | ah ;) |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16469] | oups... |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16470] | hmm... need a delimeter in the key.. n/8497:9823 ;err invalid time n/9384-5842; err invalid date |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16471x6] | n/123x345 |
... doesn't work... | |
you could use an integer to store the 2 values (but each one limited to 2^32) | |
>> a: 1234 == 1234 >> b: 345 == 345 >> key: b or shift a 32 == 5299989643609 | |
or you can make a string with the 2 parts and the delimiter as a key, but it will cost more memory | |
>> m/("123-456"): 45 == 45 | |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16477x2] | there's no end of keys .. could use zero as the delim i suppose |
what would the mem cost be to use strings? | |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16479] | there's theory and reality, just make some tests using dp |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16480] | dp? duck pond? |
Steeve 7-May-2010 [16481] | ? dp |
Terry 7-May-2010 [16482] | dp.. your acronym.. what does it mean? |
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