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Ladislav
9-May-2010
[16528x2]
also: http://eupat.ffii.org/
sorry, misplaced post
Henrik
9-May-2010
[16530]
since tuple are not series in R3, then I'd say it's fixed.
Maxim
10-May-2010
[16531]
tuple aren't immutable in R2 OR R3

>> a: 1.2.34
== 1.2.34
>> a/2: 33
== 33
>> a
== 1.33.34

this works in both R2 and R3
Steeve
10-May-2010
[16532]
nope, they are

>> a: b: 1.2.3
== 1.2.3
>> a/1: 33
== 33
>> a
== 33.2.3
>> b
== 1.2.3
Maxim
10-May-2010
[16533x2]
ok... yeah in that sense.
they aren't series.
Ladislav
10-May-2010
[16535]
tuple aren't immutable in R2 OR R3

 - it is discussed in http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Identity#Expressions_modifying_their_values

Tuples are exactly as mutable as integers in R2 as well as in R3
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16536x2]
BrainH asked: Didn't know you could put the /compare index in a block. 
Can you specify more than one index?

Sunanda says: Yes you can:
sort/skip/compare s 4 [1 2 4 3]
== [1 2 8 a 1 2 6 b 1 2 7 c]


That's great but can you do that with a block of blocks of  data....

example: 
s: [
	[1 2 8 a]
	[1 2 6 b] 
	[1 2 7 c]]
]
remove extra ]
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16538]
use a compare function for that
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16539]
So nothing as easy as Sunanda's example built into rebol?
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16540x2]
To turn Maxim's comment into an example:

   sort/compare s func [a b] [
== [
    [1 2 6 b]
    [1 2 7 c]
    [1 2 8 a]
]
s
Oops that SORT line should be
   sort/compare s func [a b] [return a/3 < b/3]
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16542]
thanks... I was a bit lazy there  ;-)
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16543]
so something like this will give me a sort on multi indexes?
sort/compare s func [a b] [return a/4 < b/4 return a2 < b/2]
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16544x4]
btw return is never required at the end of a func .. and slows down 
rebol A LOT in tight loops.
amacleod... your example would stop at first compare (you're returning 
right away)
try this instead:

sort/compare s func [a b] [
	either  a/4 = b/4  [
		a2 < b/2
	][
		a/4 < b/4
	]
]
but not exactly sure of results...
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16548]
For safe stable, sorting return -1, 0, +1 rather than true or false:
   http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes-2-5.html#section-72
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16549x2]
I do not know if that is what I want...i'm looking to prioritize 
each compare giving each a "weight"
example" 


sorting a list of first and last names first on last then on first 
in case of same last names
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16551]
The basic compare function then (assuming you are sorting a block 
of objects) is:

   func [a b] [if a/surname = b/surname [return a/firstname < b/firstname] 
   return a/surname < b/surname]]
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16552]
so if I'm comparing 5 or 6 fields I would nest to if statements 5 
deep?
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16553]
Basically, yes.....You may find a neat way of refactoring....Or JOINing 
keyfields so you can do a single compare....but that is the basic 
principle.
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16554]
thanks all
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16555]
late but here is an equivalent working example:

names: [
	["zz" "bb"] ["cc" "zz"] ["aa" "aa"]["bb" "ee"]
	["zz" "tt"] ["cc" "aa"] ["aa" "yy"]["bb" "aa"]
]
sort/compare names func [a b][
	either a/1 = b/1 [a/2 < b/2][a/1 < b/1]
]
probe names

== [ ["aa" "aa"] ["aa" "yy"] ["bb" "aa"] ["bb" "ee"] ["cc" "aa"] 
["cc" "zz"]  ["zz" "bb"] ["zz" "tt"] ]
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16556]
that limits it to comparisons on two fields...right?
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16557x2]
yep... as sunanda said, you need to chain the compares.


there might be a way of using ANY/ALL functions too, but it can be 
tricky ... though usually yields less code.
yields = requires
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16559]
Something like this will sort on all fields
 

sort/compare s func [a b] [for n 1 length? a 1 [if a/:n < b/:n [return 
-1] if a/:n > b/:n [return +1]] return 0]
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16560x2]
refining sunanda's example, sorting on selected fields

sort/compare s func [a b] [
	repeat n [2 4] [
		if a/:n < b/:n [return -1] if a/:n > b/:n [return +1]
	] 
	return 0
]


I just indented it to make it a bit easier to break up
note, the order of the fields given is the order in which they are 
weighted
Sunanda
11-May-2010
[16562]
Thanks, Maxim -- that's nice.
Maxim
11-May-2010
[16563]
I wouldn't have thought of your idea, so I thought *yours* was really 
nifty  :-)
amacleod
11-May-2010
[16564]
That awsome...thanks guys
Izkata
11-May-2010
[16565x2]
I've used 'case statements for multiple levels of sorting, like that
...although I can't seem to find where right now
amacleod
13-May-2010
[16567]
can you use get-modes over ftp?
Graham
13-May-2010
[16568]
try it ..
amacleod
13-May-2010
[16569x2]
i get errors
>> nodes: get-modes port 'file-modes
** Script Error: Invalid argument: file-modes
** Where: halt-view
** Near: system/words/get-modes port/sub-port modes
BrianH
13-May-2010
[16571]
You might not be able to get file-modes. Try some of the other modes.
Graham
13-May-2010
[16572]
You might be able to modify my ftp protocol for R3 to add the SITE 
command so that you can do CHMOD if that's the aim
BrianH
13-May-2010
[16573]
modify my ftp protocol

 for R2. R3 doesn't have anything like GET-MODES yet, though something 
 is planned.
Graham
13-May-2010
[16574x2]
or you could modify the ftp protocol for r2 to display all the file 
modes sent back by the LIST commands
I think my r3 protocol does currently display all the file attributes
BrianH
13-May-2010
[16576x2]
That might be tricky though, because different FTP servers format 
that information differently. A large portion of the source for FileZilla 
or other FTP clients that have GUIs for file listings is different 
parsers for the file listings of different FTP server software.
But we have PARSE, so it doesn't have to be that bad :)