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Geomol 25-May-2010 [16852x2] | This can be even more complicated when talking UTF encoding. Hm, who knows how R3 do this... |
Rebolek, do it in R3. | |
Rebolek 25-May-2010 [16854x4] | I'm not sure what exactly [var - 32 = var |
Ah, ok, this was R2. | |
Yes, in R3, it's true. | |
I agree with you, this is strange. | |
Steeve 25-May-2010 [16858] | >> #"a" - 32 == #"A" >> #"a" - 32 == #"a" == false >> #"a" - 32 = #"a" == true it's ok to my mind |
PeterWood 25-May-2010 [16859] | Izkata: /strict could also striclty equal to numbers to give an alternative to : >> number: 1 == 1 >> switch number [1 [print 1] 1.0 [print 1.0]] 1 >> number: 1.0 == 1.0 >> switch number [1 [print 1] 1.0 [print 1.0]] 1 |
Gregg 25-May-2010 [16860] | I think the var - 32 scenario is fine as well. It's all about context, and by making it work the other way, you're just shifting the problem, not really solving it. That is, something becomes easier, but something else becomes harder. |
Geomol 26-May-2010 [16861] | Gregg, are you really sure, you mean this? As I see it, the life would be much easier, if "a" equals "A", but #"a" didn't equal #"A". As it is now, it's really problematic testing for different characters in a string using SWITCH. Cases where "a" and "A" should be handled as the same is ok, but cases where they should be different is the problem. If #"a" was made to not be the same as #"A", then both situations could be coped with easily. |
PeterWood 26-May-2010 [16862] | At the moment Switch is consistent with Equal?. Surely, it would be better to retain that consistency and have a /strict refinement for switch which perfomed consistently with strict-equal? ? |
Geomol 26-May-2010 [16863x2] | Peter, the equal thing is correct for R3, not R2, which we still get updates for now and then. |
In other words, SWITCH is not consistent with EQUAL in R2, when talking the char! datatype. | |
PeterWood 26-May-2010 [16865] | You are correct, I was mistaken about the R2 behaviour. |
Gregg 26-May-2010 [16866] | First, it should be consistent between R2 and R3 if at all possible. For SWITCH, I think the solution is to add a refinement if people think it's needed. If the new native SWITCH is still based on SELECT, adding a /CASE refinement shouldn't be hard. For the more general case of char case-sensitivity, we have ==/strict-equal? |
Maxim 26-May-2010 [16867] | I agree with Geomol here. many people see chars as a subsitute for string, even I once saw it like that, but I have come to realize that they shouldn't be. #"A" should not be equal to #"a". |
amacleod 26-May-2010 [16868x3] | I'm getting an error with send that neever got before... >> send [bebop-:-gmail-:-com] "hello" ** User Error: Server error: tcp 421 Cannot connect to SMTP server 173.236.30.114 (173.236.30.114:25), connect error 10060 ** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp] either only |
I tried several different accounts but get the same error | |
It seems to be working again...don't know what was going on | |
Maxim 26-May-2010 [16871] | you know... it IS possible that Google has outages too ;-) |
amacleod 26-May-2010 [16872x2] | I was using versizon google and another host...all the same prob... |
verizon | |
Will 26-May-2010 [16874] | amacleod: the IP address 173.236.30.114 resolve to cx02.justhost.com , which may be your provider. does that correspond to your smtp server? |
amacleod 26-May-2010 [16875x2] | yes... |
actually it did not happen sending on gmail account as i can't (without Graham's fix anyway) | |
Will 26-May-2010 [16877x3] | did you try an authenticated connection? |
trace/net on | |
telnet 173.236.30.114 25 answers? | |
Graham 26-May-2010 [16880] | that error should be with your ISP's smtp server |
Terry 27-May-2010 [16881] | ie: [a ["one"] b ["two"] c ["three"]] Q: best way to remove b and it's block ["two"] ? |
Henrik 27-May-2010 [16882] | remove/part find ie 'b 2 |
Terry 27-May-2010 [16883x2] | works for me, thanks |
another question.. if i have a blk: [] and i want to add a 'word and and a block with a pair.. ie: [ word [1x2]] i typically would append the word, then append/only the pair, but that seems barbaric? | |
Sunanda 27-May-2010 [16885] | blk: copy [] append blk [word [1x2]] |
amacleod 28-May-2010 [16886x2] | At least one of the problems I had with one of my email accounts related to port number: I was changing my smtp port to 2626 with "system/schemes/smtp/port-id: 2626" when I should have been changing my esmtp port with : system/schemes/esmtp/port-id: 2626 Dope! Thanks for the help all |
What is the advantage of using the "/only" refinement when sending multiple emails? And is there a limit to the number of addresses yo can include in a bulk mailing? | |
Maxim 28-May-2010 [16888] | afaik, the server usually applies a limit to bulk mail... often ~50 sometimes as low as 10 ! you will receive an error when you go past that threshold. |
amacleod 28-May-2010 [16889] | What about the "to:" in the header? When using /only is here a way to get the email to show the single address of the recipiant and not say a list of all address sent to? |
Maxim 28-May-2010 [16890] | I really don't know... its been a long while since i've done e-mailling in rebol... Graham can probably give you an answer, he's done a lot of email work. |
amacleod 28-May-2010 [16891] | Re: Server limit...is that when using /only or both methods? |
Maxim 28-May-2010 [16892] | I was just saying that when a server receives a bulk mail, (from any client) it will (should) definitely restrict the list size. |
amacleod 28-May-2010 [16893] | oK thanks... Now get back to Glass! development! ;-) |
Maxim 28-May-2010 [16894x2] | within rebol, I'm not sure how this is handled. but I know that |
oops... ingnore last sentence... I know nothing :-) | |
amacleod 28-May-2010 [16896] | looks like my host cutsoff at 10 addresses.when not using /only refinement using /only I can't test because I only have 4 address to test send to and it seems to strip out duplicate addresses whcih is how I tested above |
Anton 29-May-2010 [16897] | Use the BCC: (blind carbon copy) field to specify a list of recipients who will not see the other email addresses. I think you need to set bcc in a custom header. |
GiuseppeC 29-May-2010 [16898] | Just a question for REBOL School for me too: is there a way to send HTML emails with embedded images ? |
Andreas 29-May-2010 [16899] | Why not ask it in Rebol School, then :) ? |
GiuseppeC 29-May-2010 [16900] | Because I thought I was in REBOL School... sgrunt ! |
Graham 4-Jun-2010 [16901] | How do I create a string with a single caret ? rejoin [ a "^" b ] doesn't work but rejoin [ "a" "^^" "b" ] gives me a^^b |
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