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[Core] Discuss core issues

Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17041]
Sure ... I wrote up an example
Henrik
14-Jun-2010
[17042]
cool
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17043x2]
http://rebol.wik.is/Protocols/Test-async-http.r
uses the same ahttp with a small change ... see http://github.com/gchiu/Rebol2/blob/master/Protocols/prot-ahttp.r
Henrik
14-Jun-2010
[17045]
thanks
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17046]
In the handler, there should be a check to see if the event is an 
error ...and then close the port
Henrik
14-Jun-2010
[17047]
seems redirects are not supported
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17048x3]
Yes, that's correct
I don't need redirects since I'm downloading from Amazon S3 ...
What's needed to support redirects?  Grab the new url and open that 
instead?
Henrik
14-Jun-2010
[17051]
I'm not sure, but something must be returned from the server.
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17052x4]
Perhaps close the sub-port and re-open using the redirected url?
Looks like that's what the standard prot-http does.  It checks for 
circular references as well
Perhaps we can persuade Gab to take a break from his Rebol compiler 
to complete the protocol :)
Which reminds me .. what will it take to add proxy support to R3's 
 tcp ?
Henrik
14-Jun-2010
[17056x2]
It seems there are more bugs in the string conversion utilities. 
the problem also exists when converting from UFT8 to ISO-8859-1.
never mind, it was a part I had forgotten to fix.
Oldes
14-Jun-2010
[17058]
Graham, Gab.: you are right, never checked that MOLD works like that 
on longer strings. I will remember that now.

But anyway... when you need to do call on unknown files, you should 
use more soficticated way.
Using just:
	rejoin [{"} to-local-file file {"}]

I consider as as security thread and I would never used it like that. 
And it does not metter if using MOLD or not.
Reichart
14-Jun-2010
[17059]
Not to sound doom and gloom, but I see little evidence that we will 
get a single platform we can all write to so we can focus on a free 
market war of "best products" as opposed to a private war between 
the biggest companies (Apple, Microsoft, etc.).

We are pawns in THEIR game until we have standards enforced.
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17060]
Oldes, I am using this to create a parameter to another program ... 
there's no security risk.
Oldes
14-Jun-2010
[17061]
One never knows:)
What about something like that:

>> file: {^" call ^"something else } rejoin [{call "} to-local-file 
file {"}]
== {call "" call "something else "}
Graham
14-Jun-2010
[17062x2]
I look at the file extensions and create the batch file based on 
that .. .so nothing nasty is going to happen :)
Anyone see any value in creating async network protocols for R2 based 
on Gab's async-protocol?  It really seems if we are going to be using 
R2 for much longer still.
Henrik
15-Jun-2010
[17064]
if so, they must be properly documented.
Graham
15-Jun-2010
[17065x2]
If so what?
It seems to me we need a contingency plan for the possible failure 
of R3 ( all IT projects have high failure rates and R3 is no different 
).  And so we need to develop R2 as much as we can.
Henrik
15-Jun-2010
[17067]
The reasoning would be that existing R2 software that won't be moved 
to R2 can move to an async model.
Graham
15-Jun-2010
[17068]
eh?
Henrik
15-Jun-2010
[17069]
won't be moved to R3. sorry.
Graham
15-Jun-2010
[17070]
Not only that but we all need to get experience with developing apps 
that use async protocols
Henrik
15-Jun-2010
[17071x2]
yes, true
But, in the case of a lack of documentation: I'm in a hurry, more 
often than I want to be, having to implement something that needs 
to be used in a few hours, and so I don't want to spend hours studying 
the source code, no matter how self-explanatory, the author claims 
the software is.
DideC
15-Jun-2010
[17073]
To use async on R2, I used to use Uniserve engine.

Once upon a time, France used a Web forum that had an XMLRPC interface 
and I coded a Rebol client that was able to monitor activity and 
send post on the forum asynchronously. It was a happy time...
Maxim
15-Jun-2010
[17074]
and why doesn't it work anymore?
Graham
15-Jun-2010
[17075x2]
I remember that  ...
But using the Uniserve engine seems overkill :)
DideC
15-Jun-2010
[17077]
Maxim : the web site is dead ! So the script is useless now !
Maxim
15-Jun-2010
[17078]
ah well.
Gabriele
15-Jun-2010
[17079]
Oldes, indeed, one should pass CALL a block and let it do the conversion 
(because it is platform dependent) - though right now I don't think 
it does much more than to-local-file and adding quotes.
PeterWood
17-Jun-2010
[17080]
I have updated str-enc-utils.r at rebol.org with the bug fix that 
Henrik kindly provided.
Endo
17-Jun-2010
[17081]
sort function can sort  pairs but < and > leads error? don't you 
think it would be better if < gives same result with sort?
sort [10x4 23x2]
>> [23x2 10x4] ;sorted y-first
10x4 > 23x2
>> ** Script Error: Expected one of: pair! - not: pair!
and it is a little bit strange error, expects pair, not pair?
Ladislav
17-Jun-2010
[17082]
yes, that error is not good, see the R3, where the error is:

>> 10x4 > 23x2
** Script error: cannot compare pair! with pair!
** Where: >
** Near: > 23x2
Sunanda
17-Jun-2010
[17083]
Sortability and sort order are (in REBOL) distinct from comparability.
See this curecode report and the response for example:
   http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1150
Ladislav
17-Jun-2010
[17084]
in the #1150 the response is missing the point, as I see it, mistaking 
#[datatype! unset!] and #[unset!]
Endo
17-Jun-2010
[17085x2]
sort order for different datatypes is a more complex issue, but comparing 
pair to pair should be consistent with sort I guess.
I mean
= 4x3 4x3
>> true
< 4x3 4x3
>> error
Ladislav
19-Jun-2010
[17087]
What do you think about this:

>> even? 2.1
== true


As far as I am concerned, I would call it a bug, since 2.1 does not 
look like an integer multiple of 2.0 to me.
Robert
19-Jun-2010
[17088]
bug
Fork
19-Jun-2010
[17089x2]
Unsure if it's a bug or I'm not getting something: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3068467/why-cant-i-bind-things-like-email-in-the-global-context-on-interpreter-startup
In the VM I'm running, AltME messed up the link again after email-in-t.