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Sunanda 22-Sep-2005 [2182] | Add /all to the sort: sort/all/skip/compare files 2 :comp-length |
Ingo 22-Sep-2005 [2183] | That still doesn't work, I just checked wether I had accidentally overwritten 'sort, but no ... |
Sunanda 22-Sep-2005 [2184] | It works for me: files: copy [%abc [%a/ %xx/] %def [%xyz/]] compare: func [ {compares to values, and returns -1 / 0 / 1 for values a<b / a=b / a>b} a b /local return ][ case [ a > b [-1] a < b [1] true [0] ] ] print system/version sort/compare/all/skip files :compare 2 probe files 1.3.1.3.1 == [%def [%xyz/] %abc [%a/ %xx/]] |
Graham 24-Sep-2005 [2185] | not core .. but I wonder what RT has to do to make use of dual core CPUs. Is this an OS, or an application thing? |
Henrik 24-Sep-2005 [2186] | that's an OS thing for now. I don't think programs can be threaded across multiple CPU's yet and since REBOL still doesn't have real threading, it doesn't matter anyway. |
Graham 24-Sep-2005 [2187x2] | I was thinking more of running more rebol instances than threads |
for example running more IOS servers and the like | |
Sunanda 24-Sep-2005 [2189] | It'll depend on how the OS does it. Expect them to start primitive and slowly improve *probably* any started task can be dispatched on any spare CPU. And, after any suspension, it'll get restarted on any spare CPU. *probably* (as Henrik says) subtasks will run on the same CPU. In many people's cases all their spyware and viruses will hog one CPU. leaving the other free for productive work. Separate instances will *probably* run on separate CPUs, leaving serialisation and such an issue as now. If they need to talk, a tcp/ip pipe may be easiest (as now). |
Graham 24-Sep-2005 [2190] | I wonder then what localhost will refer to ... |
Henrik 24-Sep-2005 [2191] | OSX I believe, starts new tasks on additional CPUs if a current program hogs the currently used CPU. So yes two instances of REBOL would run on each CPU, but only if CPU utilization is "correct". |
Graham 26-Sep-2005 [2192] | Is it inconsistent that with an object, you can do first object pick object 1 but not object/1 ? |
Pekr 26-Sep-2005 [2193x2] | imo paths are inconsistent on more places ... we just recently got block/(compute value) functionality and block/4: "text" etc. to simply change value directly ... |
why not block/"my string"? I know it looks terrible, but .... and also, if block/literal-value: assigned-value works, but when you use block/numeric-value, it means its position, while in the case of literal value, it performs seek ... | |
Anton 26-Sep-2005 [2195] | Graham, you may also ask if it is inconsistent that objects and functions respond differently to FIRST SECOND etc. That is what causes the problem, I think. |
Pekr 26-Sep-2005 [2196] | that is probably true, Anton, have not thought about it that way ... |
Volker 26-Sep-2005 [2197] | Pekr, if ugly is ok, try this: block/("my string") ;) |
Pekr 26-Sep-2005 [2198] | :-) |
Allen 3-Oct-2005 [2199] | GMail's not letting me post at the moment. Can someone post this reply for me Jeff Kries, did a zine article called "Dining with Dynamic Interpreters" http://www.rebolforces.com/zine/rzine-1-02/#sect5.which covers some of the same ground. --Allen K on 10/4/05, Glenn M. Lewis <[glenn-:-hometot-:-com]> wrote: Hi all! Has anyone done anything like this for REBOL: http://www.rubyquiz.com/quiz49.html If so, I would love to hear about it! Thanks! -- Glenn |
Tomc 3-Oct-2005 [2200] | I got that email om my gmail account an hour ago |
Izkata 3-Oct-2005 [2201] | I got that already, too... Gmail must just not be telling you it sent =P |
Allen 4-Oct-2005 [2202] | in that case, you might get it a few times.. It kept giving me a javascript alert saying it was unable to send |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2203] | I wonder if there can be some refinement to 'read so that when it reads a directory, it returns the full path for each file rather than just the file name. |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2204] | you can join in loop, no? |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2205x2] | sure .. but it would be easier to have this sorted out in the function ... |
the alternatives are .. 1. I learn to do it properly each time 2. I change the language to do it the way I expect :) | |
Pekr 5-Oct-2005 [2207] | of course - I also requested read/dir read/file ... to read only directories, no files and reverse ... but we now have speedy remove-each .... so I can filter out myself ... |
[unknown: 5] 5-Oct-2005 [2208] | At work we have an issue with supporting extremely large pst (outlook personal folder files). The issue is that we wont to make sure these files get backed up when the sales force connects with the network. Problem is that the M$ solutions built into Windows XP cause problems because if it sees a changed file it then trys to copy the entire file - I believe this to be the case with offline folders files and briefcase files also. What I would like to see is a solution whereby only certain contents of the file detected as changed are copied over the network and update the master file. It occurred to me that this should be a capability of any X-Internet application that deals with significant file sizes. So my question is - does anyone know of any method's, algorithms or such that currently do such work? |
Alan 5-Oct-2005 [2209] | Paul:try talking to Graham as his mailing list reader only dls the new mail and saves to the master.Probaly a way to modify for your task ? Graham ? |
Volker 5-Oct-2005 [2210] | rsync does that afaik. |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2211] | What's Carl Read complaining about with my formatting answer on the mailing list? |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2212x3] | dunno - i guess he's just kidding. you idea is quite interesting indeed. |
>> pad: func [n d] [d: to integer! 10 ** d next form d + n] >> pad 1 3 == "001" >> pad 1 5 == "00001" | |
in the end though, maybe it's slower. | |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2215] | Ok. |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2216] | but... not if d is fixed. (and of course n must be less than 10 ** d) |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2217] | I guess it's whether one wishes to write a generalised solution, or one to solve the problem at hand. |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2218] | yep... in the case at hand it's a very good solution |
Graham 5-Oct-2005 [2219] | though a printf type of solution would be handy :) |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2220] | we need the format function... people should bug Carl about it... :) |
Tomc 5-Oct-2005 [2221] | Graham I think it is a slick solution to the question asked |
Sunanda 5-Oct-2005 [2222] | Gabriele -- Is 'format something Carl has hinted RT have in development? Otherwise, no reason it couldn't be a small community exercise... |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2223x2] | it's not in development, but it has been on the list for ages. |
of course it can be done in REBOL, but i think it should be native. also, i'm pretty sure carl has ideas about how the dialect should look like. | |
Sunanda 5-Oct-2005 [2225] | Thanks.....Obviously, it'd be much faster to run as a native. But it may be much faster to develop as a mezzanine -- and would be (with a little care) backward compatible with existing and older versions of REBOL. What would be useful is some agreement on the dialect......The RT could schedule work on the native while others do it mezzanine as a usual (and b/w compatible) prototype. |
Gabriele 5-Oct-2005 [2226] | well... just let Carl know that you need it, and he'll probably react in some way :) |
Sunanda 5-Oct-2005 [2227] | Okay -- will do. Thanks. |
Pekr 6-Oct-2005 [2228x3] | I wrote generalised solution in the past. Dunno what Carl Read was complaining about, but not having 'pad by default sucks pretty much! |
it is pretty common function imo for string formatting and I am not sure I am willing to talk about its need once again, as in the past I was told I could easily write some mezzanine function for that. But we are probably not able to learn ourselves one important thing - if there are repeated request and we see new ppl facing still the same problems, we should think twice if it would not be able to be included by default ;-) | |
also, e.g. - how to easily "form decimal"? E.g. doing 1 / 100 returns 1E-2 ... why? Imagine you need it to output to some file - e.g.I do some money conversions .... 1E-2 imported into some DB is really not helpfull. So I wrote form-decimal function myself, but it is weird anyway .... | |
Tomc 6-Oct-2005 [2231] | Pekr that 1E-2 is a windows areifact , sure it should be fixed to be sane but the right place to fix it is the OS |
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