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[Core] Discuss core issues

Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2232x2]
0.001347 result of computation produces 1.347E-3 ..... now how to 
EASILY get it back to full format?
Tomc - are you sure about it?
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2234]
solaris stares with expontal notation at E-5
Benjamin
6-Oct-2005
[2235]
it does not wound like a windows problem, have you tried the calculator 
? :-)
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2236]
Btw - I know Ladislav and others worked on proper rounding. Carl 
also mentioned, BCD will be replaced by some other solution provided 
hopefully by Ladislav, but I would like to know, what is Rebol's 
precision with decimals anyway ..... write some longer one into console 
and it gets stripped down (rounded) - is that the limitation of architecture 
of OS/CPU, or?
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2237]
that will mostly be IEEE floating point definition
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2238x2]
I did not find an easier way, so I parse for E, then I distinguish 
the sign, the number -5 in above case, and then I compose the string 
:-)
Maybe there is some nice and elegant solution via dunno what - debase/base 
or some other conversions, or struct, dunno - I am not really expert 
here :-)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2240]
numbers on linux look more sane, so i guess its the os (or Carl hates 
windows?!;). althought it should not be to hard to take code from 
bsd-lib. math is ieee AFAIK.
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2241x2]
I know carl deivated a little bit from the IEEE spec in the past 
to make things a little more neewbie friendly
no the same will happen with perl on windows
Benjamin
6-Oct-2005
[2243]
did you think that the internal type conversion may be the reason 
?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2244]
what would you think about something like "###.##e##".
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2245]
they call the same underlying math libs
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2246]
Volker - what is that? :-)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2247]
AFAIK he derived by comparisions, not the math itself?
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2248x2]
hmmm propagating bad design
well it would be the display routines that are mangling not the math
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2250]
#
 is a digit, gives numbers like 123.45e67
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2251]
I know Volker, but what with that? Kind of templating/masking? Or 
what do you mean?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2252]
how about using that for a pad-function?
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2253]
if BCD was decided to be replaced by other solution, maybe we should 
ask Ladislav to comment a bit what will happen in that regard?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2254x2]
hmm, i see its a path. so [pad n ###.##] would work without quotes 
:)
its path -> is issue
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2256x4]
maybe it should be a dialect
there  is front middle and bacl padding
pad list [","]
for a comma seperated list
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2260]
Pekr: "I did not find an easier way, so I parse for E, then I distinguish 
the sign, the number -5 in above case, and then I compose the string 
:-)"
!> a: 123.456 reduce[to integer! a remainder a 1]
== [123 0.456000000000003]

Maybe the base for something better (dont know how easy that parsing 
is?)
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2261]
dunno ... you simply has some computation, it returns the result 
... and result may be something like 1 / 100, and you suddenly end-up 
with 1E-2, now what to do with that?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2262x2]
split in integer and fraction, pad integer, do something with fraction, 
join them.
fraction could be rounded, then copy/part.
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2264]
Petr: <I wrote generalised solution in the past.>
Is that published?

Eric Long also did some nice work on a format.r function....I'm trying 
to find out if it is still available to the public (I have a copy 
of it)
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2265]
I have my own function currently for that, it is just I dont find 
1E-2 really usefully for anything, or just maybe form should be tweaked 
to form decimals in their full representation ...
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2266x3]
http://www.nwlink.com/~ecotope1/index.r?
ncie, rebol indexes our index.r's :) and word-browser was great to 
find "remainder".
short enough? http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/snippets/epad1.r
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2269]
Looks good, Volker.
One problem: more than 9 leading zeroes:
 epad1 0 10 0
** Math Error: Math or number overflow

(There is a much larger limit on trailing zeroes after the decimal 
sign)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2270]
tricky. hmm, money should have a bigger scope?
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2271]
Nine *should* be enough for most people -- I didn't have a specific 
case in mind. I was just testing the limits.
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2272x2]
testing is good :)
Yep, money is worth its -erm, punning here.. adds more digits. (uploaded)
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2274]
14 leading zeroes is probably enough for anyone :-)
One bug?
 epad1 0.09 1 2
== "0.90"   ;; 10 times too large!
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2275x2]
thanks. will look at that.
forgot to pad remainder to. so 0.09 * 100 -> 9 . should be 09 so 
that appending 0s works. but got another bug-description on linux. 
there it is fixed.
Benjamin
9-Oct-2005
[2277]
i need to make a function wich can take n optional arguments, n can 
be from 1 to many arguments any help
Graham
9-Oct-2005
[2278x2]
I think Ladislav has done some work on this.
Otherwise supply it as a block :)
Benjamin
9-Oct-2005
[2280]
i whas thinking about the block option it seems more acurrate
Ladislav
9-Oct-2005
[2281]
supply it as a block
 is the proper solution I think