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[Core] Discuss core issues

Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2244]
what would you think about something like "###.##e##".
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2245]
they call the same underlying math libs
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2246]
Volker - what is that? :-)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2247]
AFAIK he derived by comparisions, not the math itself?
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2248x2]
hmmm propagating bad design
well it would be the display routines that are mangling not the math
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2250]
#
 is a digit, gives numbers like 123.45e67
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2251]
I know Volker, but what with that? Kind of templating/masking? Or 
what do you mean?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2252]
how about using that for a pad-function?
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2253]
if BCD was decided to be replaced by other solution, maybe we should 
ask Ladislav to comment a bit what will happen in that regard?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2254x2]
hmm, i see its a path. so [pad n ###.##] would work without quotes 
:)
its path -> is issue
Tomc
6-Oct-2005
[2256x4]
maybe it should be a dialect
there  is front middle and bacl padding
pad list [","]
for a comma seperated list
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2260]
Pekr: "I did not find an easier way, so I parse for E, then I distinguish 
the sign, the number -5 in above case, and then I compose the string 
:-)"
!> a: 123.456 reduce[to integer! a remainder a 1]
== [123 0.456000000000003]

Maybe the base for something better (dont know how easy that parsing 
is?)
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2261]
dunno ... you simply has some computation, it returns the result 
... and result may be something like 1 / 100, and you suddenly end-up 
with 1E-2, now what to do with that?
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2262x2]
split in integer and fraction, pad integer, do something with fraction, 
join them.
fraction could be rounded, then copy/part.
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2264]
Petr: <I wrote generalised solution in the past.>
Is that published?

Eric Long also did some nice work on a format.r function....I'm trying 
to find out if it is still available to the public (I have a copy 
of it)
Pekr
6-Oct-2005
[2265]
I have my own function currently for that, it is just I dont find 
1E-2 really usefully for anything, or just maybe form should be tweaked 
to form decimals in their full representation ...
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2266x3]
http://www.nwlink.com/~ecotope1/index.r?
ncie, rebol indexes our index.r's :) and word-browser was great to 
find "remainder".
short enough? http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/snippets/epad1.r
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2269]
Looks good, Volker.
One problem: more than 9 leading zeroes:
 epad1 0 10 0
** Math Error: Math or number overflow

(There is a much larger limit on trailing zeroes after the decimal 
sign)
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2270]
tricky. hmm, money should have a bigger scope?
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2271]
Nine *should* be enough for most people -- I didn't have a specific 
case in mind. I was just testing the limits.
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2272x2]
testing is good :)
Yep, money is worth its -erm, punning here.. adds more digits. (uploaded)
Sunanda
6-Oct-2005
[2274]
14 leading zeroes is probably enough for anyone :-)
One bug?
 epad1 0.09 1 2
== "0.90"   ;; 10 times too large!
Volker
6-Oct-2005
[2275x2]
thanks. will look at that.
forgot to pad remainder to. so 0.09 * 100 -> 9 . should be 09 so 
that appending 0s works. but got another bug-description on linux. 
there it is fixed.
Benjamin
9-Oct-2005
[2277]
i need to make a function wich can take n optional arguments, n can 
be from 1 to many arguments any help
Graham
9-Oct-2005
[2278x2]
I think Ladislav has done some work on this.
Otherwise supply it as a block :)
Benjamin
9-Oct-2005
[2280]
i whas thinking about the block option it seems more acurrate
Ladislav
9-Oct-2005
[2281]
supply it as a block
 is the proper solution I think
Pekr
11-Oct-2005
[2282]
btw - what you think of following? - normally we can access paths 
in several ways ... block/5 (fifth element), block/literal (literal 
element), block/(expression) (expressionn to evaluate). Nonexistant 
elements do return 'none. But try block/("some string") - it returns 
error. Now the question is, if this is correct/consistent with other 
ways of how we access block elements, or not?
RebolJohn
11-Oct-2005
[2283]
Question: <Unix Time>..   I found several functions on the web that 
show you how to create a unix-timestamp from a rebol time (now). 
 However, I am looking for the ability to convert a unix-timestamp 
back into rebol-time.  I started writing my own function but I think 
that leap-years might mess me up.  Anyone have any thought on the 
matter?
Volker
11-Oct-2005
[2284x2]
!> now + to-time 1e6
== 23-Oct-2005/13:26:16+2:00
i guess you can refine that for conversion. a unix-timestamp is an 
integer based on some date?
RebolJohn
11-Oct-2005
[2286]
1/1/1970 0:00:00
Volker
11-Oct-2005
[2287]
an then 32 bits for miliseconds or something like this?
RebolJohn
11-Oct-2005
[2288x3]
The unix-timestamp could be any date/time.. so I think I have to 
work top down.. first find the year then month, day, hour, min, sec. 
    Kind of like building a binary number from a decimal.. top-down.
Precision (ms) is used/not used depending on the OS / config.
I have some MRTG/RRDTool files that I am parsing for certain data 
and they all use the unix-timestamp format (not including ms)
Volker
11-Oct-2005
[2291]
i thought it is just an integer. So it is more complicated build, 
with year, month etc?
RebolJohn
11-Oct-2005
[2292]
Yeah.  the date -> unixTime function from someone else (maybe Gabrielle) 
is..
to-unix-time: func [date] [
  date/date - 1-1-1970 * 86400 + to-integer date/time
]
Volker
11-Oct-2005
[2293]
then you could reverse that. as my example shows, you can add times 
to dates. i think it works also in that large range.