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[Core] Discuss core issues

Volker
29-Dec-2005
[3044]
1) (paranoid): how do you handle buffer-overruns?

2) I could make a little script which takes the format string and 
explains it. If you get this into rebol :)
JaimeVargas
29-Dec-2005
[3045x3]
1) Buffer overruns seem to be protected by the GC. I try over run 
a very small buffer and I was uncessful.
2) That will be nice.
The work above was mostly ladislave on the call-routine and the rest 
is mine. I will probably post it to rebol.org after a few changes 
and additions to make it work in all platforms. Maybe Carl will like 
to include it by default in rebol.
Graham
29-Dec-2005
[3048x2]
set object none ; sets all the members of an object to none

set object [ "first" ] ; sets the first member of the object to "first"


how to set another member of the object only knowing the name of 
the member ?
Is there a quick way?
no matter.
BrianH
29-Dec-2005
[3050]
; Try this
object/member: value
; or this
set in object 'member value
Graham
29-Dec-2005
[3051]
thanks .. set in object 'member value is what I was looking for .
BrianH
29-Dec-2005
[3052]
Yeah, IN can speed things up a bit when repeatedly accessing the 
same member of a object, saving on lookup time. It can be used to 
provide object field access in rebcode by calling it with apply too. 
Useful function.
Pekr
30-Dec-2005
[3053]
Jaime - we have request for printf or similar functionality on ml 
- maybe you could help the newbie?
JaimeVargas
30-Dec-2005
[3054]
Pekr. I don't understand what you want here? Do you want me to post 
the printf code to the ML?
Pekr
30-Dec-2005
[3055]
yes, there is conicidentally newbie's post asking for some formatting 
functions ... there is some discussion already, Ladislav participated 
too ....
JaimeVargas
30-Dec-2005
[3056]
Aha. I have not being in the ML for ages.
Pekr
30-Dec-2005
[3057]
:-) do you suffer "altme syndrome"? :-)
JaimeVargas
30-Dec-2005
[3058]
I think so.  Besides some how the ML software kick-me out in one 
of the upgrades, so I didn't bother to register again.
Louis
2-Jan-2006
[3059]
Does anyone know when rebol will support unicode?
Henrik
3-Jan-2006
[3060]
Interesting... I thought percent! would be a legal datatype in REBOL, 
since we have so many other common types. Wonder why it's left out?
Sunanda
3-Jan-2006
[3061]
Extensive discussion on the merits and demerits of percent! here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlZXTJ
Henrik
3-Jan-2006
[3062]
amazing, it seems I even responded to that thread :-)
Graham
3-Jan-2006
[3063x2]
That's probably why you thought there was a percent! datatype!
but what we need is custom datatypes
Henrik
3-Jan-2006
[3065x2]
graham, the fact that it isn't there, kinda ruins my idea for implementing 
percent based widths in LIST-VIEW so that it's easy to discern between 
integers and percentages such as [50% 30%]. That's not so easy now, 
unless I do it the hokey way and use issue! or some other type to 
describe percent.
I guess I'll have to save it for later
Graham
3-Jan-2006
[3067]
Ashley uses decimals.
JaimeVargas
4-Jan-2006
[3068x5]
Rebol doesn't stop to amaze me. Here is some pretty neat magic to 
make instances of classes with protected variables.
CounterClass: context [
	c: 0
	bump: does [c: c + 1]
	read: does [c]
	bump-by: func [inc][c: c + inc]
]

make-instance: func [
	class
	/local class-vars instance-data class-methods v
][
	class-vars: copy [*-private-*]
	class-methods: copy []
	instance-data: copy []
	foreach w next first class [
		either function! = type? v: get in class :w [
			append class-methods compose/deep [
				(to set-word! :w) func [(first :v)] [
					bind second get in class (to lit-word! :w) '*-private-*
					do reduce [get in class (to lit-word! :w) (first :v)]
				]
			]
		][	
			append class-vars :w
			append instance-data reduce [to set-word! :w :v]
		]
	]
	use class-vars compose/deep  [
		(instance-data)
		context [(class-methods)]
	]
]

ctr1: make-instance CounterClass
crt2: make-instance CounterClass

ctr1/bump ctr1/bump ctr1/read
ctr2/bump ctr2/read
Both ctr1 and ctr2 have private state that can only be access through 
the defined interface.
Only issue with this is that it can not handle refinements or local 
func vars yet. local func vars should be easy. Refinements is a challenge.
BTW. Both ctr1 and ctr2 share the funcs defined in the CounterClass. 
With standard objects you don't need all this trickery but you receive 
a copy of the funcs.
Anton
4-Jan-2006
[3073]
Henrik, better to use "weights" (decimals) rather than percentages, 
for the user of your style, anyway.
Henrik
5-Jan-2006
[3074x2]
anton, thanks, that's a good idea.
>> to-word "a b"
== a b

>> to-set-word "a b"
== a b:

Why is that legal?
Ladislav
5-Jan-2006
[3076x3]
I think, that the correct answer is: "why not?"
another example: type? to word! "a:"
or to word! "1"
Geomol
6-Jan-2006
[3079]
Jaime, that's a pretty neat trick with the classes. Actually it's 
an extension of the language with some feature, that is not initially 
possible. I'll use some time this week-end to make a deeper inspection 
of the code. Are you the author?
Pekr
6-Jan-2006
[3080x3]
struggling with lowering security in my script - how to lower it 
in my script?? I don't want to answer the question if rebol should 
lower it ...
a bug?

to-rebol-file to-local-file %/C/Rebol/
== %/C/Rebol


Why it removes trailing slash? Then if you submit it to load it fails 
....
regarding security - can I somehow, for my client, generate .exe, 
which will have directly lowered security? We simply want to automate 
packing/upacking archives, to allow user to choose source and destination 
dir .... surely we don't want to answer security dialog each time 
...
Volker
6-Jan-2006
[3083x2]
rebol -s
switches security off.
encap should not have it on, or?
Pekr
6-Jan-2006
[3085]
not in rebol ...
JaimeVargas
6-Jan-2006
[3086]
Geomol. Yes. I am the author.
Pekr
6-Jan-2006
[3087x2]
I mean - someone has incorrectly installed rebol and runs scripts 
by pressing enter in Total commander :-)
so I thought I can disable it directly in the script, to overcome 
requester :-)
Rebolek
6-Jan-2006
[3089]
what's wrong with running scripts from TC?
Volker
6-Jan-2006
[3090x2]
you can do 
  secure none
That asks on start and then all requesters etc are free.
Kru: no -s -option.
Rebolek
6-Jan-2006
[3092]
ok
Pekr
6-Jan-2006
[3093]
I don't want to answer any question :-)