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[Core] Discuss core issues

Robert
1-May-2006
[4285x2]
Ok, I have tested some ways. The bind solution is nice but has the 
disadvantage, that I can't handle more than one currenct storage-context.
So, back to setting the storage-context and than all functions work 
on this context.
Ladislav
1-May-2006
[4287x2]
Anton: "
>> ctx-A: context [a: 60]
>> my-func: func [][a: 5]
>> blk: [] append blk second :my-func
== [a: 5]
>> bind blk ctx-A
== [a: 5]
>> ?? ctx-A
ctx-A: make object! [
    a: 60
]
>> my-func
== 5
>> ?? ctx-A
ctx-A: make object! [
    a: 60
]


 - you would have to change it to:

ctx-A: context [a: 60]
my-func: 
 func [][a: 5]
blk: [] append/only blk second :my-func
bind blk ctx-A
?? 
 ctx-A
my-func ; == 5
?? ctx-A
:-)
Anton
2-May-2006
[4289]
Ah yes, that would leave the block as is, instead of "unwrapping" 
it, which surprisingly unbinds the words.
Gabriele
2-May-2006
[4290x2]
unwrapping does not unbind; unwrapping copies.
that is, b: [] append b block   and b: copy block   are basically 
the same thing
Anton
2-May-2006
[4292]
Oh ok. So more specifically, the insert copies the words, but not 
their binding.
Ladislav
2-May-2006
[4293x2]
insert copies words *and* their binding of course
your problem is, that if you do 

    bind copy block 'context

the original BLOCK will stay unaffected
Anton
2-May-2006
[4295]
Ah of course! What am I thinking.!  So yes, as Gabriele said, my 
confusion was in not understanding that the words were copied.
Henrik
6-May-2006
[4296]
does make-dir/deep not work on FTP sites?
Anton
7-May-2006
[4297x2]
No, and it caused me grief. But there is help at hand !  I patched 
make-dir to support FTP.
Use the first definition, second one still has issues.
http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/patch/make-dir-patch.r
Henrik
7-May-2006
[4299x2]
I think it works. Thanks.
is this patch submitted to RAMBO?
Anton
7-May-2006
[4301]
No.  I think I didn't think I still wanted to think about it, perhaps 
finding a better way as the second function is attempting to do.
Gabriele
8-May-2006
[4302]
i think there are issues with ftp as a url path is not guaranteed 
to match the file system path
Sunanda
8-May-2006
[4303]
A URL path is _supposed_ to map to the file system path _if_ the 
scheme is ftp://
/
 has no assumed hierachical meaning in other URL schemes.
Hence the confusion at times.

I think REBOL is playing safe in not assuming the mapping. And, given 
how badly many FTP clients are written, that is probably for the 
best.
Louis
8-May-2006
[4304]
How can I change the smtp port to 26?
Graham
8-May-2006
[4305]
install the protocol on port 26
Louis
8-May-2006
[4306]
How?  :>)
Graham
8-May-2006
[4307]
http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-13.html- on how to use 
the port specification directly.
Louis
8-May-2006
[4308x2]
I don't find what you are referring to.  I've tried this:

system/schemes/smtp/port-id: 26


But either that is incorrect or else something else is the problem.
This doesn't work either:

smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
Graham
8-May-2006
[4310x3]
It should do.
then you can query the smtp directly.
Try 

insert smtp "HELO Louis-here"
probe copy smtp
and you should see a response
or not ...
Louis
8-May-2006
[4313]
>> smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
>> insert smtp "HELO Louis-here"
>> probe copy smtp
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Near: probe copy smtp
>>
Graham
9-May-2006
[4314]
>> smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
>> insert smtp "HELO Louis.com"
>> pick smtp 1

== {220-box61.bluehost.com ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Mon, 08 May 2006 22:02:46 
-0600 }
>> pick smtp 1

== {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 
}
>> pick smtp 1
== "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
>> pick smtp 1

== {250 box61.bluehost.com Hello 203-79-92-225.cable.paradise.net.nz 
[203.79.92.225]}
Louis
9-May-2006
[4315]
Hummmm.  Thanks, Graham. There must be something else I am doing 
wrong.
ScottT
9-May-2006
[4316]
I think I wish smtp just went away forever.  so many different better 
ways to send messages already.
Louis
9-May-2006
[4317x2]
What agravates me is that this script worked fine until we changed 
hosting service. Now this and other scripts are broken.
Well, I can't find anything wrong with the script, and trace/net 
gives no error messages.
Izkata
9-May-2006
[4319]
copy waits for the port to close, then returns everything sent
Louis
9-May-2006
[4320x2]
Now I am getting:

Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "esmtp"]
Net-log: [none "220"]

Net-log: {220-box61.bluehost.com ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Tue, 09 May 2006 
05:01:25 -0600 }

Net-log: {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
unsolicited, }
Net-log: "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
Net-log: [["HELO" system/network/host] "250"]

Net-log: {250 box61.bluehost.com Hello ip68-97-225-211.ok.ok.cox.net 
[68.97.225.211]}
Net-log: ["AUTH CRAM-MD5" "334"]
Net-log: ["WARNING! Using plain authentication."]

Net-log: [{AUTH PLAIN bGF0dXJrQGJpYmxlLXdheS5vcmcAbGF0dXJrQGJpYmxlLXdheS5vcmcAaXN0cmkx}
    "235"
]
Izkata, I don't understand what you mean.
Oldes
9-May-2006
[4322x5]
system/schemes/smtp/port-id: 26
Hm, it was already mentioned. Your problem is, that your provider 
do not accept PLAIN authentication, It requires CRAM-MD5 authentication 
as you can see from the log
The script for counting cram-md5 auth is here:

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/cram-md5/latest/cram-md5.r
There is quick patch which should helps you to send crypted passwords

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/smtp/latest/esmtp_1.3.2.r
hm, but now I see, that this is not the problem, your problem is, 
that you provider do not accept any authentication as I'm getting 
this error:
Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not advertised
Louis
9-May-2006
[4327]
Should I turn off authentication? If so, how?
Oldes
9-May-2006
[4328x2]
maybe using this way: set-net [[laturk-:-bible-way-:-org] bible-way.org 
none none none none none none]
(if you are not using proxy)
Henrik
9-May-2006
[4330]
oldes: great, now louis email address is webpublic :-)
Oldes
9-May-2006
[4331]
hm, sorry for that. Maybe altme web output should cripple the emails.
Henrik
9-May-2006
[4332]
made a feature request for it
Anton
9-May-2006
[4333]
Temporarily made this group not web-public. I guess in a day or two 
we can switch it back. Not sure how it works.
Louis
9-May-2006
[4334]
Sorry to log off so suddenly like that. I had some computer problems.