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>> smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
>> insert smtp "HELO Louis-here"
>> probe copy smtp
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Near: probe copy smtp
>>

>> smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
>> insert smtp "HELO Louis.com"
>> pick smtp 1

== {220-box61.bluehost.com ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Mon, 08 May 2006 22:02:46 
-0600 }
>> pick smtp 1

== {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 
}
>> pick smtp 1
== "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
>> pick smtp 1

== {250 box61.bluehost.com Hello 203-79-92-225.cable.paradise.net.nz 
[203.79.92.225]}

Hummmm.  Thanks, Graham. There must be something else I am doing 
wrong.

I think I wish smtp just went away forever.  so many different better 
ways to send messages already.

What agravates me is that this script worked fine until we changed 
hosting service. Now this and other scripts are broken.

Well, I can't find anything wrong with the script, and trace/net 
gives no error messages.

copy waits for the port to close, then returns everything sent

Now I am getting:

Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "esmtp"]
Net-log: [none "220"]

Net-log: {220-box61.bluehost.com ESMTP Exim 4.52 #1 Tue, 09 May 2006 
05:01:25 -0600 }

Net-log: {220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
unsolicited, }
Net-log: "220 and/or bulk e-mail."
Net-log: [["HELO" system/network/host] "250"]

Net-log: {250 box61.bluehost.com Hello ip68-97-225-211.ok.ok.cox.net 
[68.97.225.211]}
Net-log: ["AUTH CRAM-MD5" "334"]
Net-log: ["WARNING! Using plain authentication."]

Net-log: [{AUTH PLAIN bGF0dXJrQGJpYmxlLXdheS5vcmcAbGF0dXJrQGJpYmxlLXdheS5vcmcAaXN0cmkx}
    "235"
]

Izkata, I don't understand what you mean.

system/schemes/smtp/port-id: 26

Hm, it was already mentioned. Your problem is, that your provider 
do not accept PLAIN authentication, It requires CRAM-MD5 authentication 
as you can see from the log

The script for counting cram-md5 auth is here:

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/cram-md5/latest/cram-md5.r

There is quick patch which should helps you to send crypted passwords

do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/smtp/latest/esmtp_1.3.2.r

hm, but now I see, that this is not the problem, your problem is, 
that you provider do not accept any authentication as I'm getting 
this error:
Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not advertised

Should I turn off authentication? If so, how?

maybe using this way: set-net [[laturk-:-bible-way-:-org] bible-way.org 
none none none none none none]

(if you are not using proxy)

oldes: great, now louis email address is webpublic :-)

hm, sorry for that. Maybe altme web output should cripple the emails.

made a feature request for it

Temporarily made this group not web-public. I guess in a day or two 
we can switch it back. Not sure how it works.

Sorry to log off so suddenly like that. I had some computer problems.

Don't worry about that email address. It was a temporary one I created 
for test purposes.

Hmm.. I don't know the correct terminology, so I can't explain what 
I mean very well...

>> smtp: open/lines tcp://bible-way.org:26
>> insert smtp "HELO Louis-here"
>> probe copy smtp
** Access Error: Network timeout
** Near: probe copy smtp


SMTP ports stay open while data is transferred back and forth.  Copy 
doesn't return until the port is closed - so in the above line, copy 
is waiting until the server closes SMTP, and the server is waiting 
for a command from the client.


It's the reason why (as I understand it) Grahams "pick smtp 1" worked, 
but copy did not - SMTP was still open, even though there was data 
for the client to read.  (I was stuck on that myself for a long time 
 ;-)

Oldes, that worked! Many thanks. I would probably have never figured 
that out by myself.

Izkata, thanks. I am learning many things today.

Henrik: "Oldes: great, now louis email address is webpublic :-)"

No more so than by right-clicking on his name in the thread :-)

Oops I  forgot about the web-public stuff!!!

Which is fastest/best?      

y
 <> ch-db/2/drop

or 

ch-db/2/drop <> "y"

Or does it make any difference?

with the constant first it does not have to decide/figure out the 
type of  'drop

should minutely  quicker

just be careful though, because you may end up compariing a 1 char 
string! vs a char! , you might not get the result you expect
y
 <> #"y"
== true

Thanks, Tomc and Allen. And Allen, I didn't realize that. Thanks 
for the warning!

To test performance of some code, you can use this function:

time: func [:f /local t] [
	t: now/time/precise
	do f
	now/time/precise - t
]

Example:
>> time [loop 100000 [ch-db/2/drop <> "y"]]
== 0:00:00.34105

Btw. performance-wise the 2 ways look equal good.

Thanks, Geomol!

I recommend using time-blk.r from Ladislav it does multiple measurements 
until the measurement error is below supplied threshold.

Thanks Jaime, I'll check that out.

is it possible to change file permissions via FTP with rebol?

YEs.

We need to yell at Dan, and get him to post the source to FTPGadget. 
 It has examples of just about everything for FTP.

I truly don't even know what is holding that up.

that would be nice

I bitched at Cal and Dan.  I think there is nothing holding them 
up.  At one point it was that the code only ran on 1.2.5, so they 
should post this in the next few days.

put it in their Qtask queue ...

It is, but since it is not a priority it can't be given a deadline.

In fact, if you are part of the Qtask Contractors project, you can 
read everyone's tasks.

is there an easy way to print numbers with thousands separators? 
I seem to keep resorting to complex solutions that not always work.

printf ?