World: r3wp

Error message says the site might be down.

No. It opens now.

I'm not having much sucess today. I downloaded it, but it dies instantly 
when I try to fetch my mail.

Erro Signature
AppName: rebol.exe	 AppVer: 1.3.2.3	 ModName: rebol.exe
ModVer: 1.3.2.3	 Offset: 00031983

That is a windows error message, and just the first part of it.

Is that script working for anyone else? I mean that version of the 
script?

I run version 3.1.1 with Rebol 1.2.10

I'm running: REBOL/View 1.3.2.3.1 5-Dec-2005 Core 2.6.3

I'll see if I have an older version on my harddrive somewhere.

I also downloaded the latest version and got a similar error on 1.3.2.

Louis, try this:

do http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/util/preview-mail/preview-mail.r

Script: "view-message" (2-Aug-2006)
connecting to: anton.wildit.net.au
** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: open-window
** Near: win-pos: prefs/data/win-pos
if all [block? win-pos main-pos: win-pos/main]

system/version == 1.3.2.3.1

Thank you Oldes. It looks like the problem is that somewhere there 
is an assumption that the prefs have loaded from disk. Hang on...

Ok, bug fixed.  Try again, Louis.

(The script is now one word shorter - I love bug fixes like that. 
:)

I managed to get a working copy of Didec's delete-emails to Louis 
by pasting it in a private message. It seems to have allowed him 
to resolve his problem.

Ok, very good.

PeterWood and Anton, many thanks! It turned out that one of my children 
sent me a file with many huge photos. The very slow dialup connection 
I have here in Indonesia could not (or perhaps is designed to not) 
handle it. I was able to delete the file and all is well, except 
that now I can't look at the photos, at it cost me two days trying 
to solve the problem. I probably could not have solved it at all 
without you guys.

User poll

How many users would like (or at least not object against) adding 
BUILD as an official mezzanine?

Comparison of BUILD and REDUCE/ONLY:

1) REDUCE/ONLY does not allow you to specify which words to evaluate, 
which would be safer, it rather specify which words to *not* evaluate
2) REDUCE/ONLY isn't /DEEP, i.e. it does not process subblocks
3) The evaluated words are local for BUILD

http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/build.r

(How many users would use BUILD?)

would that mean:

>> build [1 [3 + 2 now]]
== [1 [5 13-Oct-2006/11:16:56+2:00]]

?

because that's the kind of build I would be interested in

hmm... no it wouldn't. :-(

I don't have anything against BUILD, but I need to be convinced more 
on the practical uses, because I can't see how this makes block building 
any easier. Perhaps some more examples would be good. :-)

Examples contrasting compose (with /only and /deep) and reduce/only, 
would be great. I know it has a couple in the script. I've looked 
at it in the past, but haven't been driven to add it as a standard 
part of my process yet.

Henrik: Build can do it using one of the following ways:

    build [1 [ins 3 + 2 ins now]]
    build [1 only reduce [3 + 2 now]]
    build/with [1 inner] [inner: reduce [3 + 2 now]]


OTOH, your example is quite specific and not very general (I would 
say that it as a task for REDUCE/DEEP)

(except for the fact, that REDUCE does not have a /deep refinement)

I think some practical examples are needed, for example in building 
some HTML for a webpage. Something that shows that BUILD is significantly 
easier than a combination of REDUCE and COMPOSE.

building some HTML for a webpage
 - BUILD builds blocks not HTML

ok, a layout block then?

the example Mike liked is:

    view layout build/with [
        box 600x600 effect [
            draw [
                spider [
                    size 600x600
                    ; offset 100x100
                    pen black
                    scale 4
                    ; scale [0 150 300 450 600]
                    categories [

                        "Category 1" "Category 2" "Category 3" "Category 4"

                        "Category 5" "Category 6" "Category 7" "Category 8"
                    ]
                    directions
                    pen red
                    data [100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800]
                    pen blue
                    data [100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100]
                ]
            ]
        ]
    ] [spider: :spider*]

(it builds a DRAW block creating a Spider graph)

** Script Error: spider* has no value
** Where: build
** Near: spider: :spider*

Spider is: http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/spider.r

>> do http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/spider.r
connecting to: www.fm.tul.cz
Script: "Spider" (8-Sep-2006/16:40:58+2:00)
** Script Error: lfunc has no value
** Near: spider*: lfunc [
    [catch] 

    description [block!] "a block containing a description of a chart"
] [] [
    current-...
>>

use INCLUDE as follows:

do http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/include.r
append include-path http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/
include %spider.r

it wants to find the file in my local cache before the remote one 
and crashes:

>> do http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/include.r
connecting to: www.fm.tul.cz
Script: "Include" (5-Jan-2006/14:31:42+1:00)
>> append include-path http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/
== [%. %/Volumes/c/rebol/ http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/]
>> include %spider.r
connecting to: www.fm.tul.cz
** Access Error: Cannot open /Volumes/c/rebol/spider.r
** Where: include-script
** Near: found: load/all target 
if header
>>

Sorry, if I'm being a little difficult :-)

no problem, checking what went wrong in your case

>> what-dir
== %/Volumes/c/rebol/

if that helps.

OK, give me a few minutes to check the versions

aha, this looks like a result of the last INCLUDE change. It is surprising, 
that nobody noticed it yet.

Henrik: could you please test again?

(INCLUDE bug corrected)

same error

I can see that the script dates for include.r are different, so it 
must be the new version

ah... a fresh console helped.

yes, INCLUDE does not reload itself when already defined

back to the example: what exactly does Spider do? I don't think it's 
very clear from the example what's going on. there could be hundreds 
of lines of code hidden there.