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Robert 12-Nov-2007 [8873] | So, not when parsing for the content but for the block as is. |
Gabriele 12-Nov-2007 [8874] | Robert, what you see at the console is the output of MOLD. there is no 'make and no 'hash! there. if you are *saving* the hash in a file or sending thru tcp and so on, use MOLD/ALL (or SAVE/ALL) so that hash! can be loaded properly afterwards. |
DanielSz 12-Nov-2007 [8875] | Is there a built-in function that returns the platform we're running on (Windows or Linux or Mac or whatever)? |
Sunanda 12-Nov-2007 [8876] | it's encoded in system/version this script decodes it for you: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=environ.r |
DanielSz 12-Nov-2007 [8877] | Thanks, Sunanda, much appreciated. |
Steeve 12-Nov-2007 [8878x2] | http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=environ.r |
arg !!! too slow | |
DanielSz 12-Nov-2007 [8880] | :) Thanks to you, Steeve. |
Ingo 12-Nov-2007 [8881] | Hi Robert, do you mean, this? >> b: [a b c] == [a b c] >> h: make hash! [a b c] == make hash! [a b c] >> parse reduce [b][block!] == true >> parse reduce [h][block!] == false because a hash!, is a hash! and not a block? >> parse reduce [h][hash!] == true Then you should use any-block! >> parse reduce [h][any-block!] == true >> parse reduce [b][any-block!] == true |
DanielSz 14-Nov-2007 [8882x3] | There is a nice script that encodes strings to utf-8. It is by Romano Paolo & Oldes. I'd like the reverse: decoding utf-8 strings. I found a script by Jan Skibinski proposing to do that, but the script doesn't load in rebol, exiting with an error ('map has no value). What's next? |
Ok, I think I got what I need. Jan's script can be salvaged, if only part of it. | |
BTW, I noticed that rebol.org serves pages in utf-8 encoding, but the scripts themselves are latin-1. This is not a problem for the code, but it is a problem for the comments, which may contain accented characters. For example, names of authors (hint: Robert Müench), and they consequently appear garbled. I'm not saying pages should be served as latin-1, on the contrary, I am an utf-8 enthusiast, I think rebol scripts themselves should be encoded as utf-8, (it is possible with python, for example). I hope Rebol3 will be an all encompassing utf-8 system (am I dreaming?). | |
btiffin 14-Nov-2007 [8885] | UTF-8 is being discussed as part of R3 Unicode support. All encompassing? Dunno. Well thought out and robust? I'd bet on that one. |
DanielSz 14-Nov-2007 [8886x3] | Well, on that same note of optimism, allow me to declare in forthcoming R3 syntactic style, rebol: "vive la rébolution" |
And why not even rébol: "rébolution"? | |
That is to say, not only should there be utf-8 string datatype, but words themselves should be utf-8 compliant. | |
btiffin 14-Nov-2007 [8889] | It's on the discussion plate. Gabriele mentioned that unicode will help REBOL open up in Asia, so it's a topic at the high levels. A couple of rebols have done some very nice work on fonts and character sets. Jerry Tsai comes to mind ... check the Unicode group for some of his links. Oldes has also pulled off some nice translators...again links in the Unicode group. To name but two. Even Bi-Di is being discussed. |
Gabriele 15-Nov-2007 [8890] | Daniel, afaik, R2 words are already utf-8 compliant. (thanks to the way utf-8 is designed) |
Pekr 15-Nov-2007 [8891] | What is current R2 recursion limit? Bobik reports me, that he does some tree, and it hits the barrier with 2000 iterations .... |
Oldes 15-Nov-2007 [8892] | Daniel: just read Unicode group in this world. |
Sunanda 15-Nov-2007 [8893] | 2000 sounds about the limit for R2. There's a script here that tests various limits like that: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=rebol-stress-test.r |
Anton 15-Nov-2007 [8894] | Pekr, I think it depends how many local vars are used in the function. With one local var, I got 14263 recursions before stack overflow. Maybe he can optimize by moving some variables out into a shared context. |
DanielSz 15-Nov-2007 [8895] | Thanks everybody, I'll follow your advice. |
amacleod 28-Nov-2007 [8896] | I'm tring to open a .pdf from rebol script using "call" function. It works but i get that MSwindows console window poping up too. I know if you call the application (acrobat reader) at the same time you do not get the console window. any otehr wat to suppress the console from popping up? |
amacleod 29-Nov-2007 [8897x5] | This works: call "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe C:\Program Files\PDFS\file.pdf" |
What would be the rebol path notation of the above. I tried variations of this: call "/C/Program Files/Adobe/Acrobat 6.0/Acrobat/acrobat.exe /C/Program Files/PDFS/file.pdf", but I can not get it to work... | |
This will show the pdf with console: call %"/C/Program Files/ACI32/PDFS/X11070003.pdf" | |
This will start acrobat with no cosole: call %"/C/Program Files/Adobe/Acrobat 6.0/Acrobat/acrobat.exe" | |
But I can not combine them as I did with using windows file path notation | |
Henrik 29-Nov-2007 [8902] | AFAIK there is no way to supress the console window in R2. |
Oldes 29-Nov-2007 [8903x2] | >> to-rebol-file "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Acrobat\acrobat.exe" == %/C/Program Files/Adobe/Acrobat 6.0/Acrobat/acrobat.exe |
if you have PRO license, you should use ShellExecuteA routine from shell32.dll | |
BrianH 29-Nov-2007 [8905x3] | amacleod, try this: call [%"/C/Program Files/Adobe/Acrobat 6.0/Acrobat/acrobat.exe" %"/C/Program Files/PDFS/file.pdf"] |
If the application starts and returns immediately, the console will close before you get a chance to see it. I think acrobat is one of those programs. If you are opening this pdf in the free reader, I would seriously suggest upgrading to reader 8.1.1 for security reasons, and because it's better. | |
CALL will do the to-local-file translation for any REBOL files it is passed (even in that block above, though not in nested blocks), and even wrap the filenames in quotes just in case they have spaces in them. | |
amacleod 29-Nov-2007 [8908] | BrianH, Your suggestion above works. I had tried the same thing but without the block...stupid me. Thanks! |
Rod 5-Dec-2007 [8909] | Any binary parse wizards ever tried to tackle the on disk file format that postgresql uses to store row data? I'm looking through the docs trying to get a handle on how tough it is. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/storage.html and http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/storage-page-layout.html give a fairly detailed starting place, plus the source of course but my C is so rusty I think reviewing the raw data is going to be easier. We are trying to recover some data that was deleted (marked for) by accident. We basically need to find the serial key value and associate it with a text value for each row so we can rebuild the table and not lose the relationships that key off that serial numeric value in other tables. There are some good examples of binary parsing in the rebol.org script library so I know rebol can help write out a text version of the two values if we can get a handle on the structures involved. I'm open to suggestions or advice, this is not critical but would be a nice win to recover the key data. |
Oldes 6-Dec-2007 [8910x4] | I'm quite interested and I may give it a try... but I don't know when |
but I have only Postgresql 8.0 I'm not sure how much it's different | |
the header is same | |
here is a basic... http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/pgsql-db.rthis reads the postrge's file per pages... but I'm not sure what to do with the data inside and have to do something else now | |
Rod 6-Dec-2007 [8914] | Oldes, thanks for getting us started on the postgresql data parsing! Thanks, Rod. |
Henrik 14-Dec-2007 [8915x2] | is it possible to get the name of the script that was run with 'do? |
from inside that script, that is | |
BrianH 14-Dec-2007 [8917] | system/script/path gets the directory of the script, and you can put the name of the script in its header with the File field. |
Henrik 14-Dec-2007 [8918x2] | ah yes, but it doesn't work if you 'do other scripts inside that script. I guess I'll figure out some other method. |
the goal is only to be able to relaunch the script. | |
BrianH 14-Dec-2007 [8920] | If script %a calls script %b, b's system/script/path is set to its directory, and b's system/script/parent/path is set to a's directory. |
Henrik 14-Dec-2007 [8921] | perhaps a quick routine to find the root script? |
BrianH 14-Dec-2007 [8922] | If we set b's File field to %b in its header, we can get that value for relaunching or whatever. |
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