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Geomol
29-Feb-2008
[9350x4]
Smallest readable version, I can produce:

diy: func [y] [either attempt [to-date join "29-2-" y] [365] [366]]
oops, I exchanged 365 and 366. It should be:

diy: func [y] [either attempt [to-date join "29-2-" y] [366] [365]]
Leap year *is* tricky! :-)
And the leap? function:
leap?: func [year] [366 = diy year]
Sunanda
29-Feb-2008
[9354]
Nice work, guys.

I tried emailing them the link to this discussion, but their server 
is overload so it did not get through -- must be too many people 
sending them solutions in obscure languages :-)

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp157x9339
Gabriele
29-Feb-2008
[9355x2]
leap?: func [y] [2 = second to date! reduce [y 2 29]]
(probably not any better than the above)
[unknown: 5]
29-Feb-2008
[9357]
drop one character and change the to date! to to-date.  ;-)
Geomol
29-Feb-2008
[9358x2]
Nice one, Gabriele! It's a force in REBOL, that you can do things 
in many ways. So we often find a way, that suit us well. Of cource 
it can also be a little confusing and hard to find the 'best' way 
for you.
In most cases, we run circles around the other languages out there! 
:-)
Dockimbel
29-Feb-2008
[9360x6]
leap?: func [y][2 = second poke 29/02/2000 1 y]
A bit faster, but I'm not sure it would work correctly on big-endian 
platforms.
Alternative ways :
leap?: func [y /local c][c: 29/02/2000 c/year: y c/month = 2]

diy?: func [y][
    366 - to-integer to-logic any [
        positive? y // 4
        all [
            zero? y // 100
            positive? y // 400
        ]
    ]
]
(to-logic is useless here and should be removed)
Btw, using the =? operator instead of = for the ending test in 'leap? 
would make it more readable for non-rebolers.
[unknown: 5]
29-Feb-2008
[9366x4]
Could also use REBOL's error handling routines such as:
leap?: func [y][date? try [to-date join "29/2/" y ]
But that is not as efficient.
But it is short.
Gregg
29-Feb-2008
[9370x2]
So, if we had a built-in, or standard library implementation of LEAP-YEAR?, 
would you want it to be the shortest or fastest one? The easiest 
to understand? The most REBOLish? 


The various approaches people use in REBOL always makes me think 
about this, and how hard it is to choose sometimes. e.g. here's mine:

leap-year?: func [

 {Returns true if the specified year is a leap year; false otherwise.}
	year [date! integer!]
	/local div?
][
	either date? year [year: year/year] [

  if negative? year [throw make error! join [script invalid-arg] year]
	]
	; The key numbers are 4, 100, and 400, combined as follows:
	;   1) If the year is divisible by 4, it’s a leap year.

 ;   2) But, if the year is also divisible by 100, it’s not a leap 
 year.

 ;   3) Double but, if the year is also divisible by 400, it is a 
 leap year.
	div?: func [n] [zero? year // n]
	to logic! any [all [div? 4  not div? 100] div? 400]
]
Using REBOL to help figure it out, even with error trapping, seems 
very REBOLish. 


Also, My days-in-year func is based on leap-year?, rather than the 
other way around, and John did.
[unknown: 5]
29-Feb-2008
[9372]
Gregg, my preference is the one that offers the best performance.
BrianH
29-Feb-2008
[9373x2]
My priority for library functions goes like this:
1. Stable
2. Fast
3. Easy to use
4. Easy to understand the implementation


That last one is only for maintainability - otherwise it is not a 
priority at all for library code.
Error trapping has a lot of overhead, so the more you can avoid basing 
your library code on it, the better off you will be.
[unknown: 5]
5-Mar-2008
[9375]
anyone know what stats/types counters are reflecting?  i know when 
I add a block for example the counter remains the same value.
btiffin
5-Mar-2008
[9376]
How transient are the blocks?  REBOL seems to do a fair job of not 
over allocating.   a: copy [] a: copy [] will only change the count 
by an entry, not two.   a: copy [] insert/only a copy [] should change 
select stats/types 'block! by two or so.

afaik
[unknown: 5]
5-Mar-2008
[9377]
I figure if I created a block it would update the counter for each 
new block created as long as the older ones were still set as well.
btiffin
5-Mar-2008
[9378]
Well, yes, but it could well replace an unused slot etc etc ... (I'm 
GC clueless) etc etc.  Wrapped in recycle you should see the numbers 
change a little more sensibly.
[unknown: 5]
6-Mar-2008
[9379]
That's just it Brian.  All I did was open up the console and assigned 
a word a block value and check the stats/types for the block counter 
and it didn't change.  I added another one and still didn't change. 
 So I'm a bit perplexed.
btiffin
6-Mar-2008
[9380]
Yeah, even after boot there are reallocatable blocks.   Try recycle 
first thing in the console, then run the experiments.  Once again, 
this is only afaik, 'cause I don't.
Gregg
6-Mar-2008
[9381]
REBOL may allocate things in "pools" for efficiency. You shouldn't 
care Paul, except in extreme cases.
[unknown: 5]
6-Mar-2008
[9382]
Yeah but if I know how they work I might be able to utilize that 
functionality in the future ;-)
[unknown: 5]
7-Mar-2008
[9383x4]
Here is a total flatten function:
b: func [blk [block!]][to-block trim/with mold/only blk "[]"]
forgot to name it - here instead:
flatten: func [blk [block!]][to-block trim/with mold/only blk "[]"]
BrianH
7-Mar-2008
[9387]
That kills the bindings of the words - is that intentional?
[unknown: 5]
7-Mar-2008
[9388x5]
Yes it is intentional if someone wants to completely flatten a block.
I can't see where someone would want to keep context if they are 
deciding to flatten it to that extreme.
I have a more useful flatten function that encompasses that one that 
will be more useful for someone that wants to keep contexts of no 
so flattened blocks.
It could probably be a mezz as it is very useful
Brian, I'll see if I can whip up my comprehensive flatten function 
to include a context sensitive full flatten and post it here.
BrianH
7-Mar-2008
[9393]
Here's a version which modifies in place:

flatten: func [blk [block!] /local rule a b] [
	parse blk [some [a: set b block! (change/part a b 1) :a | skip]]
	blk
]
[unknown: 5]
7-Mar-2008
[9394]
Nice Brian
BrianH
7-Mar-2008
[9395]
I've had to do something like it before. It doesn't preallocate or 
copy, but what can you do.
[unknown: 5]
7-Mar-2008
[9396x2]
yeah true
Are they planning to put something like a flatten function in R3?
BrianH
7-Mar-2008
[9398]
You can copy/deep first if you like, though that has allocation overhead. 
A version was proposed in the R3 discussions, but hasn't made it 
through the screening process (not general-use enough I guess).
[unknown: 5]
7-Mar-2008
[9399]
to bad I can see why we need it.