World: r3wp

It's not a final version, but is completely usable. What is not finish 
is the editor for the rules.

So, this rules are stored in the rules.txt file (this file appear 
after your run it one time) and should be edit manually.

I need to use com12 (on winXP) to access a Bluetooth serial port 
- anyway this can be done using REBOL?? (Other ports work fine on 
a different PC to Bluetooth) - but I need the flexibility as eventually 
I will be talking to 4 remote devices.   Any help out there???  thanks.........

Do you mean just getting to com12? Look at system/ports/serial. By 
default I think it's just [com1 com2].

Gregg, I added com12 to the system/ports/serial and it gets thrown 
out when I OPEN.  Will work if I used com7 on another PC - seems 
to only like a single digit for N in comN??

Hmmm, putting my "wayback" hat on...maybe try port12 (i.e. 'port 
instead of 'com)

I've never tried to go past com9 myself; I know that.

Thanks, I've tried some com port mapping software (maps com12 to 
com1) and then all works.  I can keep the REBOL com port as com1 
and change it in the mapping software.  A work around for now.  Tnks 
for the help

I built a little Rotation Zoomer here: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/rzoom.r

and please - could someone come with more attractive ViewTop skin? 
Maybe we could do a small contest, no? :-)

wrong group, sorry ...

Henrik - your zoomer is nice - I vote for it to be included in View 
Desktop test folder - nice example of AGG usage .... although REBOL 
is bitmap, or not? Once enlarged, I can see R and O letter with jaggies 
... :-)

pekr, yes, it's bitmap. I noticed someone asked about a performance 
measuring tool for AGG perspective mapping, but I didn't have much 
time, so it became a rotation zoomer.

New ViewTop look!  I vote for that.  I did not want to use it again 
in 1.3 -- but our focus was in other areas, not on improving that 
graphic. I did a few small things t make it look a bit better.

what happened to all that stuff about the desktop being open?

http://www.rebol.com/news3610.html<- that one

Carl: Maybe the skinning could be implemented?

Viewtop source has been open for a long time now, but the only one 
who did anything with it, AFAIK, was Volker.

He, not the only one.

I have (only) update the Desktop emailer to add attachment handling.
Works nice :-)

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=vt-emailer.r

Ah, I didn't know that Dide! Thanks.

But, yes ok, it's not a big work ;-)

would be nice to see some organized effort for View 1.4. using AGG, 
perhaps some desktop searching, fancier graphics, etc.

Yes, but I think it would be good to know "what's next from Carl 
... I will ask Carl in Carl only group ...

wow...you guys are pritty ahead... I must still let 1.3 do the work 
and you are already talking 1.4 ;-)

I think there have been a great effort in other areas... this could 
easily be applied to the desktop project

rebolinth: hehe, well, I think the desktop is a pretty obvious target, 
don't you think? :-) Carl mentions this above...

That's what I suggested. We have Cyphre gfx guru here, Chris knows 
something about mock-ups. Maybe the desktop does not need to necessarily 
look like a desktop? :-) There is too much of desktops everywhere 
:-)

I'm not sure what else it should be... AmigaDE is actually the same 
principle. They sell you a program which launches kind of a desktop 
where you can launch AmigaDE games and programs.

but I think there could be potential in a real, full desktop with 
its own window manager. I've been playing with that idea.

View 1.3 is out...

oh my, we can see very nice demos in desktop demo folders, with "designs" 
like Calculator .... those should be removed, redesigned, or they 
somehow descredit current Rebol's AGG capabilities ;-)

I wonder why 'list style is not based upon Carl's IOS Developer's 
version, which was said being fixed and more advanced?

You can expect list style the most difficult style for newbies to 
use

It is also no more true, that VID is supposed to tolerate unknow 
words - e.g. I tried radio-group instead of radio-line. Old version 
only said "Misplaced item". Was the change intentional?

Just an usability question - when I have radio button in my design, 
I can "turn it on", but can't turn it off. I know I should use check-line 
instead probably, but is it correct that single radio button can't 
be deselected, if it allows to be selected? :-)

yep :)

yep
 means yes, or no? :-))

Yep

 means yes: since there is only one single "Yep" in Anton's answer, 
 you can't turn it off by selected a "No" there!

Is that OK though? I have to find some windows app and try it :-)

Mostly you use radio buttons in a group, so ....

That's right. Radio buttons make no sense unless they are in a group. 
If you want a single on and off option then you must use a checkbox.

how do the pane buttons in the Rebol/View User Setup get the pressed 
state look when they are active?

maybe they are not buttons, but toggles? Ehm ... not btns, but togs 
:-)

I seem to have found a solution, but it's ridiculously complex...

pekr: ah thanks. I didn't know there were new versions of toggle

now it works. way simpler. thank you very much, pekr

well, thank to others. I just asked few days ago if there is new 
version of toggle, and someone (Ashle?) gave me an advice :-)

how do I keep the view window open if I run rebol.exe  myscript.r 
so I can see the results? thanks.

Put a HALT at the end of the script. If you want to see the console, 
simply print something like PRINT "finished"

thanks!