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DideC 6-Aug-2005 [2070] | I think you must display iterated face in the whole box area, but you set the text and color of some of them to clear "what was here before". |
Anton 6-Aug-2005 [2071] | I think it is strange that you are iterating different faces. That seems to defeat the purpose of iterating to start with. You should iterate one face. It is a single face which changes its position, shape and contents rapidly when it is asked for. You have to ensure that the face always has the correct information when it is asked for. But anyway, we can't make good suggestions unless we see a more complete demo that we can run. |
Robert 6-Aug-2005 [2072x3] | Hmm... the thing is that the faces must have different positions. So it's not distributed evenly. The apps is this: I have day numbers 1-30/31 from left to right. And now at each Monday position, I want to draw the week-number. So x-positions shift. |
different face: It's just three month side by side. So forget it. The problem applies to one month. | |
and each month has it's own iteration face. | |
Anton 6-Aug-2005 [2075x4] | You are using a single iteration function to manage three faces. Hmm... I hesitate to say it can't be done, but maybe it isn't recommended... unless I misunderstand it. |
The problem looks like it is that you are only updating one of the faces and returning it per call of the function. So any faces which weren't updated stay where they were. | |
So is the month very wide (1 - 30/31 days) or do they wrap at every week ? ie. are you trying to make an iterated version of my calendar-month widget ? | |
ie. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 .... or 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ... Perhaps you can draw and show us a picture of it ? | |
DideC 6-Aug-2005 [2079x2] | I think you need 2 main faces: - A normal iterated face for days. - A classic face with 5 subfaces to display week. You just have to change offset, size and text according the monday location. |
The problem is that iterated face are not designed to display things of differents size or offsets. Iterated face works fine with linear offset changes that give always the same result. | |
Anton 6-Aug-2005 [2081] | That's not true. I've seen a demo of iterated virtual faces flying around everywhere. |
Robert 6-Aug-2005 [2082x2] | Dide, I think that's the way I'm going to use. KISS ;-)) |
Just thought it could be done with iterated faces too. | |
Anton 6-Aug-2005 [2084x2] | I am certain it can be. |
Dide, sorry, there is truth to what you say. But it can be done, too, just more work for the programmer. | |
Volker 6-Aug-2005 [2086] | So there are areas where my function doesn't return a face for. And these areas are not cleared by View. Thats why i said "show parent-face". then the whole background face is redrawn, then the iterated faces in its pane-function. |
Robert 6-Aug-2005 [2087] | there is no parent-face. It's the whole layout and I need to do an initailize while layouting ;-) |
Volker 6-Aug-2005 [2088] | for coordinates, my demo-rebol-colorizer uses them. Positions faces freely over a text. |
MikeL 6-Aug-2005 [2089] | Help ... I am trying to reset a button's background color with an action but am missing how to do that under View 1.3. I think it worked before. I had thought it was: view layout [button "Test" gold [ face/text: "Text Reset" face/color: red show face ] ] |
Pekr 6-Aug-2005 [2090x4] | Hi, I am not sure, just ask View gurus here, but imo button is still "crippled" design .... |
Look at get-style 'button and its 'init method. Imo button is colorized in terms of effect block, so face/font/colors, nor face/color does apply ... and don't be confused by face/multi part ... it is imo used when multiple facets of the same kind are used, as e.g. "button red green ... | |
IIRC I once did such trick and I used to redefine 'effect part, but it was long time ago ... it is imo pity that such stupid simple things require hacker aproach to styles | |
that is also why I propesed more of usage of "accessors", simply to have face/something, where that "something" would be handler, which would take care of everything needed in terms of style. Currently View/VID does not provide us with proper encapsulation in terms of OOP - while we have complete freedom, non experienced user can be confused and mess things ... | |
MikeL 6-Aug-2005 [2094] | Thanks Petr ... I was hoping it was something simple that I was doing wrong. I have been probing the face objects for awhile and looking at the new View documentation. I used the new View doc to get this to work face/color: get pick [green red] face/color = red from the example in a face but can't get the same satisfaction under VID layout button. |
Volker 6-Aug-2005 [2095x2] | With oops i would look at the docu now. with /view i look at echo on probe get in get-style 'button 'feel, the redraw, and see there face/color is set from face/colors. trying to change that, face/colors/2: red does not work. Hmm, face/colors is none. i guess i give button two colors immediate. button "Test" gold gold yup, now it works. |
Also button is not the best example for customisation, as it does a lot to be smart with the vid.arguments. | |
Gabriele 7-Aug-2005 [2097] | yes, you have to change face/colors, not face/color. this is very common in VID. |
DideC 7-Aug-2005 [2098x4] | Button style has changed since 1.2.1. In 1.2.1 when you provide color(s) for a button, the button was simply of this color(s), no effect. So you can change button color after layouting by changing the face/colors facet. |
Since some betas (arround 1.2.30, 1.2.40), the face/init style has evolved, and now, the face/colors are used to generate two gradient effects during the creation of the button. So it's way more difficult to change it later. | |
You can compare the init code of 1.2.1 and 1.3.1 for button like this : | |
probe get in get-style 'button 'init | |
MikeL 7-Aug-2005 [2102] | Thanks for the help. I was still having trouble because I was taking the default button color in the the init layout then trying to change it based on some click action. If you default the button color, you can not change it. |
Volker 7-Aug-2005 [2103x6] | Here is my test-script, comments below |
view/new layout [across toggle "Test" gold "Test Reset" red [ probe value ] button "Test" [ face/text: "Text Reset" face/colors: reduce [white red] show face ] feel [ redraw: func [face act pos /local state] [ if all [face/texts face/texts/2] [ face/text: either face/state [face/texts/2] [face/texts/1] ] either face/images [ face/image: either face/state [face/images/2] [face/images/1] if all [face/colors face/effect find face/effect 'colorize] [ change next find face/effect 'colorize pick face/colors not face/state ] ] [ if face/edge [face/edge/effect: pick [ibevel bevel] face/state] state: either not face/state [face/blinker] [true] if probe face/colors [face/color: pick face/colors not state] if probe face/effects [face/effect: pick face/effects not state] ] ] ] ] | |
one is, maybe you want a toggle instead of a button? | |
that 'redraw is copypasted from original source (probe get in get-style 'button 'feel). then instrumented with a few probes. so i can track what really happens on redraw. | |
seems it has to do with the effect. if i clear effect (face/effects: face/effect: none) i get pure colors. but with effects on it mysteriously does not work. dont understand that yet. | |
because i am not a graphics person ;) with default colors an effect looks like this: [gradient 0x1 66.120.192 44.80.132] and without [gradient 0x-1 32.32.255 173] . in first case last value is a color, in second an integer. seems the integer filters face/color, while the color-tuple overrides it. | |
MikeL 7-Aug-2005 [2109] | Thanks Volker et al. I am using VID for a quiz for my kid's grade school studies - mostly history and science questions. In this humble attempt, the button label is the answer to a multiple choice question. When an answer button is clicked it changes from a default color to green if it is a correct answer or red if it is a wrong answer. This might offend UI experts but the button color change (when it works) gives immediate feedback. Repeating the drill seems to bring the number of wrong clicks down until they get toward zero and grades seem to go up accordingly. |
Volker 7-Aug-2005 [2110x3] | good idea :) |
just as a side-effect i have discovered that buttons can blink. just set face/rate and show the face. | |
maybe thats feedback too? none stops, integer is "frames"/sec, a time the delay. | |
Pekr 7-Aug-2005 [2113] | my friend who codes in View after some time would like to ask, what changed in "focus" system since 1.2.1 - were there any changes since then? |
Volker 7-Aug-2005 [2114x2] | if you want to dig into making own behavior, you can start with this: |
view/new layout [across button with [ source init source feel init: [copy needed stuff from init] feel: [copy and edit functions from feel] ] ] | |
Pekr 7-Aug-2005 [2116x3] | He created his own grid and he would like to have more than one grid on-screen and would like to switch between them by tab. Can I make my own style being of 'tab-stop type? And how to let arrows etc. to works in terms of focused grid, not whole screen? |
Volker - good point - I looked into new Doc and it does seem to be the most complete and nice doc ever! Maybe small section of how to start add own styles would fit it well? | |
well, although we are talking VID here, not View ... so maybe it should exist in terms of VID separate doc ... | |
Volker 7-Aug-2005 [2119] | and strip out all this "if color", since you know you if you have color or effect. May simplify code and give you better control. OTOH better come here and ask for special effects, if you need results instead of studying arcane view-magic :) |
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