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[View] discuss view related issues

Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2692]
main window can get focus, but at least it does seem to not being 
active event-wise ...
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2693]
that's a bug .. that appeared in the betas.  Before that, the main 
window did not get focus.
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2694x2]
ah, now I see - it is based upon 'inform and show-popup ...
so did anyone anything to focus/event system in betas?
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2696x2]
huh?
You really are trying to make us read twice!
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2698]
why? what did I say?
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2699]
exactly. who knows?
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2700]
I don't understand your logic then ... you said there is a bug, probably 
somewhere around focusing ... I asked, if someone did any changes 
in View for beta release?
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2701x2]
well, that wasn't what you wrote.
However, I did file a RAMBO report on this issue.
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2703]
second - you provided me with example .... using 'alert .... so I 
looked into alert (as I don't want just alert window, but my own 
window with some other elements, which will deny leaving focus to 
any of background windows), to see what is it based upon and so I 
just remarked that "the trick" is based upon 'inform function, which 
is based upon show-popup ....
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2704]
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3801&
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2705]
OK, then my english is twisted or I do post too many thoughts in 
parallel .... if there would be some ability to attach particular 
message as an reaction to another one, it would be clearer, but I 
am not sure there is any kind of "thread based" IM client around 
:-)
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2706]
view a: layout [btn 200x200 [view/new/options layout [btn 100x100] 
reduce ['parent a]]]
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2707]
you sure show-popup really blocked background windows in the past?
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2708x3]
This is what you wrote "so did anyone anything to focus/event system 
in betas?"

I don't understand the question.
and yes, it used to stay infront of parent windows.
From memory, it changed behaviour around about March betas.
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2711x2]
ok, I thought so, once you told me that it is not what I wrote. It 
is because of wrong translation into english, it should probably 
be - "so did anyone any changes in (for?, into?) focus system for 
(in) recent betas?" How should I write it correctly in english?
btw my friend Bobik informs me, that he tried with 1.2.48 and it 
does not work too ... maybe you meant some 1.3 View branch, when 
1.3 project was started ....
Bobik
22-Sep-2005
[2713]
Yes it is true
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2714]
Well, since RT is the only agency that can make changes, I would 
have asked .. "Did RT make any changes in the focus system for 1.3" 
and I would have said, yes :)
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2715x2]
Graham - is it? :-) I thought they have their "co-operators" from 
community now, no? Gabriele taking care of some bits of networking/LNS, 
Cyphre AGG stuff, Gregg something else and IIRC it was Romano who 
did some changes to VID focusing, no? So that is why I asked "anyone" 
instead of RT ... :-)
... and I don't expect Carl (RT) to check every bit of changes, as 
he imo expects us to do testing and post reports :-) Anyway - bug 
is submitted, let's hope it will get corrected ...
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2717x2]
View1240031.exe prevents the parent window from coming to the front.
I can test it on others ... but I did this all before.
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2719]
ok, thanks ... that is a good info ...
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2720]
In the old code, you can see things like, "Jeff, why did you do this 
for?" but I suspect that everything is now checked by Carl very closely.
Pekr
22-Sep-2005
[2721]
yes? heh, I wonder if Rebol does have some easter eggs :-)
Geomol
22-Sep-2005
[2722]
As a side-note, requesters in Canvas are using INFORM, thus are modal.
Graham
22-Sep-2005
[2723]
Anyone have an idea of how hard it would be to mockup similar dashboards 
to these ones ?

http://www.ve.com/kavachart/prod_va_demos.html
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2724]
not particularly hard, I think...
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2725]
You're on Henrik.  Then we can post them to the wikibook as view 
examples :)
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2726]
woah, did I say that? :-) meanwhile I do have a different example 
that could be useful: http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/clock.zip
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2727x4]
So retro!
I have to step back across the room to read the clock :)
I wonder what the implementation approach to the patient management 
dashboard would be.
create some type of self graphing widget perhaps
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2731]
a face with a rate that grabs some data from an array
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2732x2]
I don't think they're intended to be in real time.
Just more to provide a snapshot over time.
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2734x2]
still, wouldn't it be a good approach? the rate could be once per 
hour, plus on demand updating
this way, if you really want realtime, it's a matter of adjusting 
the rate
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2736x2]
I suspect it is unnecessary for the task at hand, and would complicate 
the task somewhat.
still, it would be a good demo :)
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2738]
I'd love to see a demo of an overview of graphs updated in realtime 
from any source. any.
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2739]
of any graph in any language or just Rebol?
Henrik
23-Sep-2005
[2740]
well for starters Rebol, but what if you could mix data like that 
and then just display it, no matter if it's CVS, rebol blocks or 
something measured off the serial port from a physical device.
Graham
23-Sep-2005
[2741]
sounds like you want to make a rebol oscilloscope