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Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3026] | oh and no wizards |
Luca 27-Oct-2005 [3027] | I agree too. |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3028] | wizards are a good indication that you are using something that can be too complex for the average developer and that gaining full control will take you months of learning. |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3029] | DO you speak of rebol-headers with auto-date and version update? :) |
Luca 27-Oct-2005 [3030] | :-D ... so navigation features are not useful neither? |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3031] | MY prefered navigation is grep, not some structured view. give me every "this-word" in files. |
Luca 27-Oct-2005 [3032] | Even if the file is "big"? |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3033] | I get a seperate list with the hits and can jump from there. emacs. |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3034] | volker, well... that's a border line. Its more that wizards that can set up a set of files for a compile and you have various profiles to work against, but you can't really understand what's going on behind the Wizard Curtain. I guess this is OK when you are working with C or ObjC programs when you want to build libraries and things that are OS specific, but it also tells me that this is hard, by default. REBOL should absolutely never go in that direction or encourage it. |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3035] | but could be done in rebol with the control-editor-trick. |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3036x2] | PARSE could do wonders for a small function browser. I built one not long ago. |
Also a realtime search bar could be nice. I don't think it would be hard to do. | |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3038x3] | I tried some things based on loaded code. One can search a word in all contexts. The other can find the source for loaded functions, with a little markup. could be anamonitor jumping to source. But never really did that. |
That gives the ability to look where a function in some context comes really from. | |
But was never hard enough to figure that out with other ways, so never finished it. | |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3041] | I've also built a multiple file search tool. It's not complete yet as it doesn't yet search recursively, or launch the editor on the appropriate file, but it's helped me out a few times. I'll see if I can upload it... |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3042] | Is upload complex, or do you need to search script? |
Luca 27-Oct-2005 [3043] | A good programming approach helps more than a lot of tools. But good tools help when you stop on "strange" problems or just need to maintain an "old" piece of code or code wrote by others. Do you agree? |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3044] | how do you mean, "upload complex"? |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3045] | I'll see if I can upload it. once when i wanted to upload i had to search ftp and password etc and that took time. |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3046x3] | http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/msearch.r<-- usable but not complete. |
oh... I had it handy, no worries. :-) | |
the hard part was to walk over to another PC in a different room :-) | |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3049] | Aah! :) |
Luca 27-Oct-2005 [3050] | :D |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3051] | but what about it? It would be useful in an editor, I think... |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3052] | Thats the definition of hardware/software? reaching hardware is hard? :) |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3053] | Of course I could have logged into it with SSH from this room, but that would have been too soft on my leg muscles. yeah, I guess you can define soft and hardware that way :-) |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3054] | Looks nice. Can i work onit? |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3055x2] | sure, but I would like to keep it public |
so all rebolians will benefit :-) | |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3057] | Me too. I usually "blog" my files on my wiki. |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3058] | it would be nice to be able to search something, doubleclick on a line and the editor opens and jumps to the right line... also if it could be incorporated the same way as we use request-file, request-dir and others |
Volker 27-Oct-2005 [3059x2] | Thats what i am thinking. i had a goto-caret with editor working once. Only forgot inwhich project. |
if i do omething, its here: http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/code-navigation/ | |
Henrik 27-Oct-2005 [3061] | ok, thanks. will keep an eye on it :-) |
Luca 28-Oct-2005 [3062] | Could anyone point me where /View manage the tab key to let the focus move through the fields in the pane? |
james_nak 28-Oct-2005 [3063] | Gabriel wrote this: Add a face/refocus function. face/refocus: func [shift] [ ; shift is true if this is shift-tab ; do your own refocus handling here ] This should be enough to solve most of your issues. In the past (View 1.2.8) there were even more problems, so that I wrote a number of patches and a Field style that *never* handles focus automatically. So I could validate and handle focus myself. http://www.mail-archive.com/[rebolist-:-rebol-:-net]/msg02722.html |
DideC 28-Oct-2005 [3064] | TAB key is handle in ctx-text/edit-text. It is used only in face that input text (field & area) and works with the 'tabbed flag. |
Louis 28-Oct-2005 [3065] | Why do I sometimes get several blank lines when I use return? How can I just get a return? I'm using the beta SDK. |
MikeL 30-Oct-2005 [3066] | Anybody working on a Rebol View version of Sudoku? http://www.dailysudoku.co.uk/sudoku/index.shtml |
Sunanda 30-Oct-2005 [3067] | Sudoku: Two people in the last month alone: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-detail.r?l=s&topic={55E4B9405FC4B313E9233E7B20E17EC08B5AC37D} |
Luca 31-Oct-2005 [3068] | James, DideC - Thank you! |
MikeL 31-Oct-2005 [3069] | Thanks Sunanda. That AGG Sudoku by James is very nice. It needs some bells and whistles like undo as well as the Functions mentioned in the script - like help, solve, hint but very nice effort. |
james_nak 31-Oct-2005 [3070] | This is a view/core issue but I place this here since it's showing up in View. I've recently changed hosting companies and not one of my apps doesn't like the email authentication like it did before. I noticed that a while back there was a discussion about this before the esmtp was placed into view (esmtp.r and esend.r + the patch). I'm getting this: ** User Error: Server error: tcp 535 auth failure ** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp] either only This is one of those "but it was working before" issues. Perhaps one of you has run into this. BTW, both Outlook and webmail seem to work OK though even Outlook was a little slower yesterday connecting to the server. Thanks as always in advance. |
DideC 31-Oct-2005 [3071] | A "trace/net on" dump can help to narrow the cause, maybe. |
james_nak 31-Oct-2005 [3072x2] | yes, I'll try that now. |
Thanks DideC. That trace helped me to find the error of my ways. I think it used to work because it wasn't really being authenticated. Now that it is, I had to be very precise on the info I was sending (which was actually wrong in the previous versions) | |
Terry 1-Nov-2005 [3074] | Why is it when I run this code using rebview1350031.exe, i get the rebol "working" logo spinning continuously? view/new layout [box 100x100 blue] |
Graham 1-Nov-2005 [3075] | you shouldn't get any thing since you have started the wait |
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