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Graham 1-Jan-2006 [3682] | where to change the row height and font size for the rows ? |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3683x3] | also by manual layout... I think it's actually easier to create the manual layout if you want to set a lot of parameters such as: list-text 75 right bold font-size 17 which is standard LAYOUT dialect |
then you can set all parameters of the list-text face | |
this is also how LIST in VID works | |
Graham 1-Jan-2006 [3686] | I'll have to read the wikibook again :) |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3687x2] | luckily I managed to write a section on LIST in the wikibook :-) |
LIST is grossly underdocumented in the original VID docs... If I had found it sooner, I could have saved 3-4 weeks of work this summer :-( | |
Graham 1-Jan-2006 [3689x2] | I've got a new version (0.0.9) version of the chat client at http://www.compkarori.com/reb/ which incorporates Henrik's list ( not used yet though ), and Allen has added his link parser :) |
http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat.rfor those not using IE. | |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3691x2] | version 0.0.12 uploaded. Changes: New: Documentation! New: WIDTHS block to let you determine the widths of the columns Docs are available in makedoc2 format at: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view.txtand http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view.html Note the new url for the source code for LIST-VIEW is http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view.r |
In the coming versions, I will remove the original demo and rely more on the docs. I might provide an updated demo later when the list view is in a more reliable state. | |
JaimeVargas 1-Jan-2006 [3693x2] | Henrik it will be cool if you can make list view model independant. |
What I mean by this is that list could request a model to give the data to display for the specific row. Instead of enforcing a particular model for the data representation. | |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3695] | hmm... could you give an example? my brain is a bit fried right now :-) |
JaimeVargas 1-Jan-2006 [3696x6] | Right now all *data model* is a block. But you may want to be able to access a file of bytes and some particular fields in that stream. |
So, instead of forcing the conversion of the bytes stream in the block data model. The list view could interrogate the controller to extract the data from the base model. | |
So list-view will say to an intermediary function give me the first row of values. This intermediary function ask the conversion func aka the controller to extract and conver the data from the reall *data model*. The controller returns this to the list-view list-view displays the row of data. | |
So LIST-VIEW will use the MVC paradigm. (Model-View-Controler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller) | |
This way LIST-VIEW is *data-model* independant. Programmer doesn't waste ram or cpu cycles converting all data to from *real data model* to LIST-VIEW expected *data model*. The programmer only need to write the controler part. Which is taylor for efficiency. You only need to extract the values that are visible by the LIST-VIEW at any given moment from the *real data model*. | |
The current list-view is quite nice. ;-) | |
Graham 1-Jan-2006 [3702] | are there any real life rebol widget examples doing this ? |
JaimeVargas 1-Jan-2006 [3703x2] | Nope. One of my problems with VID and RebGUI is that the gfx are to tightly couple with the data representation. So a change in data representation implies a change in the gfx code. |
It think it will be nicer if we could decouple the gfx widget code from data representation making it data model agnostic | |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3705x2] | what it can do right now is append, change, remove and insert rows. so this would be kind of an ACQUIRE function that calls a controller function that returns a value that can be inserted into DATA with insert-row or append-row? |
with the point being, that you call your data source and insert the data into the list using a single function | |
JaimeVargas 1-Jan-2006 [3707] | Yes. That sounds good. ACQUIRE. |
Henrik 1-Jan-2006 [3708] | I'll take a look at it, maybe tomorrow. close to bedtime now :-) |
Graham 1-Jan-2006 [3709x2] | Anyone point me to where Cyphre's pattern generator is ? |
It was supposed to be in viewtop/view/tests .. | |
Anton 1-Jan-2006 [3711x4] | Henrik, just looking at your list-view, and noticed a little thing that can be optimized: b: [] insert tail insert tail b 1 2 b ;== [1 2] b: [] insert insert tail b 1 2 b ;== [1 2] |
Also this: toggle "Single" 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode toggle "Row" true 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode toggle "Multi" 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode toggle "Multi-row" 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode toggle "Column" 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode can be optimized to this: style my-toggle toggle 70 [li/select-mode: to-word face/text] of 'select-mode toggle "Single" toggle "Row" true toggle "Multi" toggle "Multi-row" toggle "Column" halving the amount of code in this case. | |
I see you are successfully basing on FACE. Just a point about placement of custom facets; I would put all the facets that already exist in face at the top, then follow with all your custom ones. That way, someone who reads your code can see which is which. Furthermore, if by some chance the FACE definition ever changes (adding or removing a facet), it will be easier to see where the fault lies. Eg: list-view: face with [ size: 500x300 edge: make edge [...] ; my custom facets colors: [...] ; <--- this is the same name and I suppose the same concept as used in VID ; (but it's still custom from list-view's point of view) select-modes: [single multi row multi-row column] ; etc... ] | |
What I meant to say about the face definition changing - say for instance a COLORS facet was added to FACE. Then, you would be unintentionally overriding the View system's one and probably introducing bugs, because the View system would expect it to be used a particular way and might render the face incorrectly given the data you've put into it. It might also change that data when you expect it to remain, etc etc. | |
Volker 1-Jan-2006 [3715x2] | mvc - thats like supply in the real list works. So there are demos :) |
Not "real", the inbuild one. | |
Henrik 2-Jan-2006 [3717] | anton: First one: Alright. :-) Second one: All that code will be thrown out and there will be a different demo later Third one: You have a point. I'll look at the issue of sorting standard vs. custom facets. |
Robert 2-Jan-2006 [3718x2] | Henrik, Cyphre once did a list-view for me. It has some really nice things in it. Take a look at http://www.robertmuench.de/projects/data-form for some docs on it. |
Let me know, if you want to take a look at the source code. | |
Henrik 2-Jan-2006 [3720] | thanks! I'll take a look at it. |
[unknown: 9] 2-Jan-2006 [3721] | Cool stuff. |
Pekr 2-Jan-2006 [3722x2] | yes, absolutly ... IIRC Robert suggested his form dialect to be accepted for VID, no? |
it would be good if RebGui had similar schemas ... | |
Henrik 2-Jan-2006 [3724] | version 0.0.14 uploaded Changes: Fix: Documentation updates Fix: Multiple lists accidentally shared the LIST-SIZE value New: Custom layout block can now have multiple rows at the cost of horizontal resizability New: Now using ROW-FACE to store the custom layout block New: If HDR-COLS is set to a single word in a block, it will take the width of the list view. Fix: Code size optimization of navigation functions Info: The version between 0.0.12 and 0.0.14 is mysteriously missing... :-) The demo has been changed a bit to test custom layouts and multiple lists. http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view.r http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view.html |
Graham 2-Jan-2006 [3725] | possible to configure slider width as an option ? |
Henrik 2-Jan-2006 [3726] | try list-view/scr/resize/x <value> |
Graham 2-Jan-2006 [3727] | i'm using your list in my chatclient ... |
Henrik 2-Jan-2006 [3728] | nice. :-) screenshot? |
Graham 2-Jan-2006 [3729x3] | .. well, using version 0.0.11 :) |
http://www.compkarori.com/reb/if you have IE and plugin. | |
or, http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat.rif using rebol. | |
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