World: r3wp

ok.

better, but the headers now cross over the scroller.
http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat21.r

hang on... my connection is very bad right now

hm... beer chat has locked up

working for me.

just loaded the one above... I can't write in the field

in the area field ?

delete the 11/12-Jan-2006-chat.r file ...

I have a large view script that work fine with the previous verison 
of view, but that gives the following error witht he new version 
of view:

Misplaced item: "imanXw"
Misplaced item: "Quit"
Misplaced item: [

    (write %session-time.txt (session-time + (either now/time >= time-start 
    [session-seconds: now/time - time-start] [se
ssion-seconds: ((now/time + 24:00) - time-start)])))
    quit
]

Any idea why?

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat23.r

which has support for RMB on the users .. but a visual glitch in 
the scrollers.
Doesn't work under plugin.

So, the plugin page http://compkarori.com/reb/uses an older version.

Graham, No sound support in OSX view/beta so the newer version doesn't 
run here :-/

hmm.

but at least it shouldn't crash ??

Or , I guess it might when doing the setup business.

I need to fix that.

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat24.r

I just put an attempt around the sound initialisation stuff.

Well, I got the new plugin working with AGG.

See http://www.compkarori.com/reb/for instructions.

website is still referring to 1.2.47 though, even after reload ...

maybe you need also to change class-id in website source?

well, i think RT have to release a signed version .. but as carl 
says, it's difficult.

This way I at least can manually upgrade my own client plugin to 
AGG.

ah, sorry, got it ...

you should update your instructions - you are not able to rewrite 
the file, unless you end your IE ... it keeps old view.dll locked 
...

AGG, and no ASYNC?

I would forget MS IE version and concentrate on NS plug-in plus wrapper 
for IE ...

Yeah, forget 90% of all browsers, and go for  <10%.

I'm sure most people will work it out that they have to close down 
IE to save the file.

well, even if IE is used by 85% PCs on average, plugin can be used 
by some 60 or so percent, who are lucky not being behind proxy. Rebol 
proxy support detection sucks big time ...

Terry - you don't know what you aret talking about, so I will forgive 
you :-)

just go and read plug-in chat from yesterday, you will understand 
:-)

Ok, I've updated the instructions.

can't find the download programs folder? is that the actual name 
in XP?

Pekr, I use Firefox almost exclusively.

almost..

MS, prior to IE 5.5, used exactly the same! NS plugins. Then those 
morons had to change it, to cut it off of course. you can probably 
still find plugin.ocx somewhere on your system ..... Mozilla foundation 
offers you to use their plugin system, which will work in MOST other 
browsers, including Opera. So you just need to use their wrapper 
dll to get it working in IE once again - that is why I see no point 
in developing IE plug-in separately ...

Opera is toast.

like Blockbuster (if you live in N. America)

I surely don't want to leave IE unsupported, that would be insane, 
as IE still has more than 80%. Of course, we first need to check, 
if the wrapper library works seamlessly ...

why? Opera is rather popular here, it conforms to standards good 
enough, it is now adds free also. and don't forget - it is used on 
many mobile devices ....

Either way, I think the plugin is Rebol's only chance.. as the world 
moves more and more towards Web 2.0, Rebol's only hope, and opportunity, 
is to build widgets.

read Carl's yesterday's blog - they also have something in the pipeline, 
but I have no idea, what are they talking about, if not plug-in itself 
:-)

yes, but we first need to get NS plug-in working, then trash IE's 
plug-in functionality, and think how to integrate ....

Yeah? Wait till you see what I have in store!

current version has many problems and lots of things are undecided 
...

So what you have in the store? I don't want to wait. I am looking 
for C coder, which will help with NS plug-in, to get started ....

the terrible thing is, that even RT admits plug-in is kinda strategic 
to them, yet their support for the product is - null ...

Ok, when i go to save the .dll file, my folder is hidden, if i download 
to another directory, i can't paste even if i rename... my mom is 
going to freak trying to install this thing.