World: r3wp

read Carl's yesterday's blog - they also have something in the pipeline, 
but I have no idea, what are they talking about, if not plug-in itself 
:-)

yes, but we first need to get NS plug-in working, then trash IE's 
plug-in functionality, and think how to integrate ....

Yeah? Wait till you see what I have in store!

current version has many problems and lots of things are undecided 
...

So what you have in the store? I don't want to wait. I am looking 
for C coder, which will help with NS plug-in, to get started ....

the terrible thing is, that even RT admits plug-in is kinda strategic 
to them, yet their support for the product is - null ...

Ok, when i go to save the .dll file, my folder is hidden, if i download 
to another directory, i can't paste even if i rename... my mom is 
going to freak trying to install this thing.

it's not for ya mom!

:-)

MS had to disable the NS-compatible plugins by court order - some 
jerk (EOLAS) patented the idea of a plugin in a browser, and the 
overloaded US patent office didn't notice the prior art, much of 
which predated the Internet. Still pending, but MS preemptively dropped 
the patented method (the EMBED tag). EOLAS is waiting to see how 
this turns out before suing the rest of the world.

noone other did it, and EOLaS lost, no?

It's still in appeals I think.

As it is, the W3C standardized on the OBJECT tag back in HTML 4, 
so the point is moot as far as I care.

If I would met Eolas CEO, I would kick his ass :-) Their aproach 
is just not normal, but insane .... those patent things are just 
becoming really weird. I just wait when someone will be allowed to 
patent 1 and 0 :-)

what's the best/most "friendly" and brief way to get a basic font 
object?

face/font ?

might work... thanks

or even safer is: system/standard/face/font

thanks

what does layout/parent do? I can't see anything in the docs about 
it

There's a tiny explanation here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlZVTK

0.0.21 of LIST-VIEW uploaded.

Changes:

      Fix: Fixed an instance where LIST-VIEW would crash with empty OUT-COLS
      New: FONTS block to set font objects for each column

      Fix: Got rid of the grey color bar at the bottom of the list view,

        when the list height didn't add up to the rows. Thereby, you no longer
        need to set COLORS/4 manually.
      Fix: Background color in COLORS was not used

      Fix: When using ROW-FACE, FIT = FALSE and the columns weren't filling
        out the header, the last text field would be darkened.

      Fix: Sometimes when HDR-COLS was not defined, LIST-VIEW would crash

      New: SHOW-EDIT now allows to select which column to focus on

    Main file is available at:
    http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-view.r
    Demo and testcases available at:
    http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-demo.r
    Docs are available in makedoc2 format at:
    http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-view.txtand
    http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-view.html

So, Henrik, seemns to me you need a news section on your website, 
and then you can simply post one line of updates : )
This is looking really good.

yeah looks like I'll need that. I'm also making a Rebsite now. I 
think that's a little easier than posting a large list of file names 
here

See, now this is why we need a cetralized website where you can post 
your news : )  everyone is having to set up the same thing, seems 
a little silly.

I'm slowly moving it into one of my larger programs with many lists. 
With the amount of initialization this list does compared to my older 
ones, I can shave off 20-30 lines of code, per list.

For those that want to set up there own site, OK, but then what they 
should do is feed an RSS to the central site.

Given even this grou, I bet you would see news almost every day, 
sometimes 5-10 bits of news.

could also be a news item viewer for Viewtop? I think it's a bit 
of a shame to stuff everything in little dull text files.

I think of it the other way around, "send" the material in XML, RSS, 
ATOM, what ever, an let each system deal with showing it.  But no 
matter what, we need a website where all this stuff comes together.

Are you willing to provide an RSS feed?

I could do that, but I need to generate it...

I see that hdr-cols is now needed.

For some reason, I can't get the scroller width to stay at 15 on 
resizing, and the edge button is still wider than the scroller width.

Where can I set the edge button width ?

the edge button should follow the width of the scroller automatically

and hdr-cols shouldn't be needed... the images in the docs show that

Previously the header used out-cols, but now it's ignoring that information. 
 I had to use hdr-cols to only get the 3 headers I wanted.

should follow the width, but not working for me.  Is there a place 
in the source I can start the edge to a width I want ?

do you have the latest sources? I really can't see how out-cols should 
be ignored for use as hdr-cols...

I use the docs as kind of a testing ground too. If you see something 
in the docs which you are trying to do, it should work, because the 
images in there are always generated from the latest version

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/pluginchat28.r

You don't have any examples of setting the scroller width :)

right :-)

made a rebsite under Public/HMK Design. should be a little easier 
to run the demo now

Graham, I'm having flash backs looking at your app.

I have a question about the matrix functions in Draw.  Is it true 
they can only be applied to an existing draw sequence?  that is ,I 
am creating novel points to insert into a polyline that is yet to 
be drawn, it seems I cant  use the matrix functions to generate these 
points.

TomC, I think I understand your question. I had a similar problem. 
I wanted to calculate where some points in the middle of a curve 
would be, if that curve were drawn.

Oldes reports this error in my chat client 

make object! [
code: 303
type: 'script
id: 'expect-arg
arg1: 'index?
arg2: 'series
arg3: [series! port!]
near: [index? find out-cols sel-col]
where: 'attempt

I haven't seen it.