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Henrik 17-Jan-2006 [4005] | LIST-VIEW 0.0.23 released. Changelog is inside the main file:http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-view.r Docs: http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/list-view/list-view.html |
Graham 17-Jan-2006 [4006x2] | thanks ..saves me one step :) |
Are you going to allow images in the rows | |
Henrik 17-Jan-2006 [4008x7] | yes at some point... |
it'll probably be when I do conditions. | |
but the design of that is not completed yet. I want it to be easy to make conditions :-) | |
that way you can have a row with a status column which for example reads 'offline or 'online. Then you could say [status = 'offline] would result in some kind of output in that cell, either a change of color or font or an image. basically anything that you can do with a face | |
there is a little bit about it in the docs | |
(suggestions are welcome) | |
off to bed... | |
Brock 17-Jan-2006 [4015x4] | Henrik. What you are doing is really amazing. I really enjoy watching projects advance. Graham, Ashley, John Niclasen and now you have let us watch an immature app/style/control grow into a more mature being. I thank you all for this. |
I was hoping Cyphre's style creation talk would be much on this exact topic of the steps needed to create a new style and walking through the creation of one. Mainly to see if this was something that was rudimentary (even newbies could do) or very involved (only for the seasoned programmer). | |
It would be great if your project was broken down into the early stages of design considerations and implementing the design. Allowing everyone to learn from the basic style creation to the addition of basic and advanced features. | |
I use Cyphres list style and asked him at one point what was involved in making the familiar style/control that allows selection of items in one list and moving them over to a second list either by double clicking on it or pressing buttons between the two lists. I have no idea what this style is called, but it sure would be interesting seeing how you would implement this with your list style. | |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4019] | Do you plan to use the 'words facet to allow a VIDish way to specify (i.e) data. So you can write : view layout [list-view data ["one" "two" "three"]] |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4020] | didec, I would if I knew how to do that :-) |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4021] | Is backeffect a new facet in VID ? |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4022] | brock, it's been a long and tough ride to get this far on my list view. This is actually somewhere around my 11th or 12th attempt at a list view where 3 of them were almost as functional as this one! So it has been because of this knowledge that it was possible to build LIST-VIEW this fast. |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4023] | Have a look to the current list style. Use Anamonitor and look at the 'words facet. It's pretty easy to do. |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4024x2] | but this is the first one I feel has been done, at least almost right, because it's the first one where I used something from Cyphres speech at the conference. |
didec, thanks! I want to implement it :-) | |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4026] | Please, also consider some renaming. flt-list => filter-list (more obvious) get-row-here => get-current-row or get-selected-row |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4027] | Henrik's vowel keys are broken on his keyboard! |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4028x2] | get-col-here => get-this-current-col or get-this-selected-col |
Not for Altme it seems :) | |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4030] | didec, I'm thinking about it, but it'll break a whole lot of stuff, and I hate long variable names :-) |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4031x2] | get-col-pos |
get-row-pos | |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4033] | Henrik, the main cost is in maintenance, and if you use abbrevs it's much harder for everyone to maintain later on. |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4034] | alright, I'll have a look at it |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4035] | ( don't look at my code though! ) |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4036] | My keyboard misses alot of letters too. |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4037] | graham, I'll provide a translation table :-) |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4038] | for me the longer the program, longer the names. |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4039] | it's just a search and replace. |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4040] | Yes, but it's the interface of the style. And an important thing I learn from Carl is "choose the right and shorter name that precicely describe what is it and avoid shortcuts". It come back in it's blog regularly. |
BrianH 18-Jan-2006 [4041] | You may notice that Carl doesn't tend to skip the vowels in those names either (rebcode notwithstanding). |
DideC 18-Jan-2006 [4042] | When I read 'change-row-here, I just wonder "Where?". When I read 'change-selected-row, I know where. It also implied that it can happen that there is NO selected row. If there is always a current row (but that is not always selected) then use 'change-current-row instead. |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4043] | what about change-row? |
BrianH 18-Jan-2006 [4044] | Plus, consider multiple selected rows, which may or not include the current row. |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4045x3] | the way it works is that you have some basic retrieval functions, such as GET-ROW, GET-COL and such. They use fixed positions to get the row you want from DATA, such as if you want row number 6, you type in: get-row 6 Then there are all the -HERE functions, which simply retrieve data from the selected rows and columns. If the name was to change, I'd probably go for GET-SELECTED-ROW and such. |
works the same for inputting data | |
there is a problem with GET-SELECTED-COL, because it could be misinterpreted as you want to return the entire column, and not the single value at a specific position in a row. I've not adopted the term "cell", but would that be appropriate? I normally only associate it with spreadsheets. | |
Graham 18-Jan-2006 [4048] | it is a table cell though |
Anton 18-Jan-2006 [4049] | Ryan, re CGI: Maybe try size-text: none at the beginning of the script ? That "might" work. |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4050x2] | Anton: huge thanks! Brilliant, well, if it works. Perhaps plopping it in the user.r, rebol.r, or prefs file. |
Henrik: what about using get-col-here as get-col with get-col/at to specify pos. | |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4052] | ryan, that's a possibility |
Ryan 18-Jan-2006 [4053] | selected behavior by default. seems nice. |
Henrik 18-Jan-2006 [4054] | yeah, however there might be a slight confusion: Currently the -HERE functions take in account filtering and sorting, so that you always edit or retrieve the right row regardless of these settings. the other functions get and put directly in DATA. The behaviour would either need to change or I'd have to add another refinement |
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