World: r3wp

Do you plan to use the 'words facet to allow a VIDish way to specify 
(i.e) data.
So you can write :

	view layout [list-view data ["one" "two" "three"]]

didec, I would if I knew how to do that :-)

Is backeffect a new facet in VID ?

brock, it's been a long and tough ride to get this far on my list 
view. This is actually somewhere around my 11th or 12th attempt at 
a list view where 3 of them were almost as functional as this one! 
So it has been because of this knowledge that it was possible to 
build LIST-VIEW this fast.

Have a look to the current list style. Use Anamonitor and look at 
the 'words facet. It's pretty easy to do.

but this is the first one I feel has been done, at least almost right, 
because it's the first one where I used something from Cyphres speech 
at the conference.

didec, thanks! I want to implement it :-)

Please, also consider some renaming.

flt-list => filter-list (more obvious)
get-row-here => get-current-row or get-selected-row

Henrik's vowel keys are broken on his keyboard!

get-col-here => get-this-current-col or get-this-selected-col

Not for Altme it seems :)

didec, I'm thinking about it, but it'll break a whole lot of stuff, 
and I hate long variable names :-)

get-col-pos

get-row-pos

Henrik, the main cost is in maintenance, and if you use abbrevs it's 
much harder for everyone to maintain later on.

alright, I'll have a look at it

( don't look at my code though! )

My keyboard misses alot of letters too.

graham, I'll provide a translation table :-)

for me the longer the program, longer the names.

it's just a search and replace.

Yes, but it's the interface of the style.

And an important thing I learn from Carl is "choose the right and 
shorter name that precicely describe what is it and avoid shortcuts". 
It come back in it's blog regularly.

You may notice that Carl doesn't tend to skip the vowels in those 
names either (rebcode notwithstanding).

When I read 'change-row-here, I just wonder "Where?".

When I read 'change-selected-row, I know where. It also implied that 
it can happen that there is NO selected row.

If there is always a current row (but that is not always selected) 
then use 'change-current-row instead.

what about change-row?

Plus, consider multiple selected rows, which may or not include the 
current row.

the way it works is that you have some basic retrieval functions, 
such as GET-ROW, GET-COL and such. They use fixed positions to get 
the row you want from DATA, such as if you want row number 6, you 
type in:

get-row 6


Then there are all the -HERE functions, which simply retrieve data 
from the selected rows and columns. If the name was to change, I'd 
probably go for GET-SELECTED-ROW and such.

works the same for inputting data

there is a problem with GET-SELECTED-COL, because it could be misinterpreted 
as you want to return the entire column, and not the single value 
at a specific position in a row. I've not adopted the term "cell", 
but would that be appropriate? I normally only associate it with 
spreadsheets.

it is a table cell though

Ryan, re CGI: Maybe try  size-text: none   at the beginning of the 
script ?  That "might" work.

Anton: huge thanks! Brilliant, well, if it works. Perhaps plopping 
it in the user.r, rebol.r, or prefs file.

Henrik: what about using get-col-here as get-col with get-col/at 
to specify pos.

ryan, that's a possibility

selected behavior by default. seems nice.

yeah, however there might be a slight confusion: Currently the -HERE 
functions take in account filtering and sorting, so that you always 
edit or retrieve the right row regardless of these settings. the 
other functions get and put directly in DATA. The behaviour would 
either need to change or I'd have to add another refinement

there could be a /direct refinement.

-marked ?

(because I believe that direct editing of data would be rarely used, 
but I'm not entirely sure)

I don't use the term "marking" anywhere...

suggestion:

insert-row - would add a row at the selected position


insert-row/at - would add a row at the position that can be seen 
in the list after filtering and sorting


insert-row/at/direct - would add a row directly in DATA at the position

insert-row/direct - would be ignored? (I don't like that)

poke-row?

poke would be like change

/raw ? raw index?

yeah, that would be good

insert-row/raw could be the way

I dont know, good luck with that guys. Seems to have a whole lot 
of innuendo's. BTW Henrik, this is a very needed control, I commend 
your efforts!

wait a minute... 'at is an existing function. will that work?

ryan, thanks :-)

sys-at: get in system/words 'at