World: r3wp

I really start to wonder how our community does look from the external 
pov. It was my friend who got pissed, not me actually, so ...

go to RAMBO and check for my name and you will see that once I find 
a bug, I report it ... not to mention tonnes of my reports in earlier 
days ....

you should be carefull to your statements, as some ppl simply use 
REBOL as a tool, nothing more. Not like us. And to them your claims 
will become arrogant ...

btw - I have one long-standing bug there which I consider important 
to be solved, I reminded many times about it, I even (with help from 
Ladislav) tracked  down where the problem is, but still nothing, 
so :-) ... yes, the red-icons bug :-)

red icons is about ios, net view... so, you can get it fixed on new 
releases of ios, not on new releases of the sdk ;)

that is of course far from the truth ;-)

it was never fixed and it is still in Core ...

... just look at my ticket and you will find out, where is the problem 
... :-)

petr, the ticket is there and won't be forgotten. there's no problem 
with that. but, to fix the red icon problem you need more than that 
- you also need to release a new version of ios.

I am not sure about that ... we tracked down the source ... there 
is one condition actually involved ... which mistakenly fails because 
of how Core (or it is Windows, dunno), report timezone ...

I just call it "red icons" problem, but I don't relate it to IOS 
itself ......

I mean - I am interested in Core fix ... not IOS new release, that 
can come later ...

is there any other script other than ios that has problems due to 
this bug?

actually - no ... let's wait for new altme :-)

view layout [text "Test" font-color none]

This may sound silly, but doesn't one expect the text to be invisible?

Probably yes. (and doesn't sound silly).

Is there a way to have "invisible" text in a face, i.e. invisible 
text even if ALL [STRING? FACE/TEXT NOT EMPTY? FACE/TEXT] is true?

This seemed to be the natural approach; I can't come up with a solution 
to this question (driven by cure curiosity).

I don't think you can do it in a single face... but so I can understand 
the goal, why do you need it ?

ah just pure curiosity.

Here's a way using DRAW dialect text:

view layout [box navy at 30x30 text 200x30 effect [merge draw [pen 
0.0.0.255 text "hello there"]]]

Actually, my idea was to have a FIELD style with DRAWn text without 
having to write my on CARET-TO-OFFSET and OFFSET-TO-CARET as mezzanines. 
Maybe that's a bit over-the-top, though.

Well, the font color could be the same as the background colour - 
effectively invisible.

You would have to change it when the field was selected/unselected 
though...

Mmm....

Put a feature request in Rambo (if it's not there already). I am 
sure I also wanted to use such a feature before for such things.

Yes, I'll do so, Anton.

But, then, such things may change with the upcoming rich-text support, 
so I think I'll first evalute the possibilities this will bring us.

You dont need to measure in the same face.

measure ?

CARET-TO-OFFSET and OFFSET-TO-CARET

Hi Anton, about the list bug with sqlite. We were both right. It 
_is_ a series copy bug. And it _is_ an sql problem ... sql reuses 
the series it has given as a return value on the next call :-(

Volker, of course you're right, I always forget that. So here's a 
proof-of-concept of an AGG field style:

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I really like the idea of implementing it to improve the look of 
fields using larger font-sizes because it seems to respond fast enough 
to be usable.

If only I'd have an idea of what the problem occuring in WAKE-EVENT 
is. Looks like an invalid face or broken draw block to me, doesn't 
it?

Ingo, thought it must have been there.. Interesting behaviour. I 
wonder if it is intentional ? Could be for speed in high-throughput 
applications.

Christian, that looks really nice !  I will have to follow this up..

Hi,

is it possible to save a layout as image, e.g. png?

Yep, just use to-image and save it.

save/png %image.png  to-image layout [button "Hi, Raimund"]

Is it possible use fonts which are not installed? (under windows, 
at the moment) 

I have a dir with lots of font files, and would like to write a font 
preview utility for it, but as these fonts are not installed, I would 
have to reference the font-files, not the name.

There was some discussion and a couple of scripts on the ML some 
time back about this: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlYDRQ

Has anybody every tried to create a fish-bone-diagram dialect?

what is fish-bone-diagram? ah, now I understand - have not seen that 
graph for ages in real-life :-)

No.

But I used to be a fan of allclear -- they devised a very simple 
text-based dialect from which they can generate numerous diagrams.
http://www.allclearonline.com
It could probably be re-engineered in REBOL in a few weeks :-)

This is probably sooo stupid.. because i work always with a make 
face I now need to add a simple face to a layout.. ;-) But i simply 
dont get it running... ie.