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[View] discuss view related issues

Sunanda
6-Mar-2006
[4403]
No.

But I used to be a fan of allclear -- they devised a very simple 
text-based dialect from which they can generate numerous diagrams.
http://www.allclearonline.com
It could probably be re-engineered in REBOL in a few weeks :-)
[unknown: 10]
6-Mar-2006
[4404x2]
This is probably sooo stupid.. because i work always with a make 
face I now need to add a simple face to a layout.. ;-) But i simply 
dont get it running... ie.
main: layout [] 
append main/pane [ something ]
view main

does not work..hehe ;-) any hints? its sooo simple probably..
Pekr
6-Mar-2006
[4406]
I would do it this way ... just try to probe main, it seems to be 
some whole VID :-)
Robert
6-Mar-2006
[4407]
Sunanda, thanks for the link. Never found a tool where I could use 
a dialect to create a flow-chart.
Pekr
6-Mar-2006
[4408x4]
main: make face [pane: copy []]
append main/pane make face [text: "hello"]
view main
that is View without VID .... maybe it could be somehow "simplified", 
using VID ...
append main/pane make face layout [button "OK" [print "ok"]]
you get the idea ...
[unknown: 10]
6-Mar-2006
[4412x2]
aaa wait... its the 'make face that needs to go inside a layout ofcourse...
yes yes.. i think thats it ;-) I forgot to do a make face of the 
bolck..
Pekr
6-Mar-2006
[4414]
what block?
[unknown: 10]
6-Mar-2006
[4415x5]
'make face
I simply forgot to put make face ..
but its oke now Thanks !
I was just appending..
with no gui ;-)
Pekr
6-Mar-2006
[4420]
eh, actually I did not think I could be helpful to you gurus regarding 
rebol coding :-)
[unknown: 10]
6-Mar-2006
[4421]
haha...
Anton
7-Mar-2006
[4422]
view layout [button  area  face with [init: [] size: 100x100 color: 
navy]]
[unknown: 10]
7-Mar-2006
[4423x4]
Anton..intresting.. I see two things I actualy never use in Layouts 
(I mostly use Faces directly) that is the init: [] and 'with
But i actualy like the felixibilty of 'layout function there are 
more ways to combine layout and make face ...intresting if your not 
like to reinvent /vid again ...
But actualy I wonder what the best way is to merge the use of Layout 
together ith 'make face.. Which is eating less overhead?
1) copying it all into a block and append
2) using make face layout inside a layout
3) using a layout with a make face with
??
ChristianE
7-Mar-2006
[4427]
Hi Rebolinth, there's a compromise between the low-level MAKE FACE 
and the LAYOUT [] approach for single faces called MAKE-FACE. It's 
basically a way to create single faces using the VID style name and 
a spec block for of specifying facets. Of course, MAKE FACE should 
have the lowest overhead, whereas - just as it says - LAYOUT is more 
for describing whole layouts. You may find MAKE-FACE slightly easier 
to create VID-compatble faces without getting into too much detail.
[unknown: 10]
7-Mar-2006
[4428x2]
Ah oke thanks for the explanation Christian.. Well Yes im using make 
face far more often in bigger programs/scripts where layout i use 
for the quick build of gui's..
Mmm i have asked this once befor but can someone explain to me when 
to use 'with  ?
Ammon
7-Mar-2006
[4430]
When you want to assign facets that you can't assign with the dialect 
or any time you find it easier to assign facets using with than using 
the dialect. ;-)
DideC
7-Mar-2006
[4431x2]
As ammon said :
	view layout [
		vh1 "The text" 
		vh1 with [text: "The text"]
	]
It's the same.
With is nice i.e. to set the background color of a text style (where 
colors used in the dialect are assigned to font) :
Henrik
7-Mar-2006
[4433]
and everything in that block is equivalent to working with an object 
block, so you can put in functions, etc. and all the variables are 
bound to the face
DideC
7-Mar-2006
[4434]
view layout [
	vh1 "Text"  blue
	vh1 "Text" with [color: blue]
]
Allen
7-Mar-2006
[4435]
Also the facet does not need to already exist in the style, it can 
be used to add your own custom ones e.g

 view layout [button "click" with [squid: 3] [alert join "My squid 
 is " face/squid] ]
Henrik
8-Mar-2006
[4436x3]
I'm testing a tab button group with BTN look. What do you think? 
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/tabview.png
the idea is for them to be toggles in a group, where only one of 
them can be selected. then there needs to be an easy method to perform 
some kind of action, such as selecting a mode or changing a layout 
in a pane
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/tabview2.png<-- how they would look selected
Anton
8-Mar-2006
[4439x2]
view layout [style group-tog tog [print [face/text]] with [related: 
'default] group-tog "Anton" group-tog "Henrik" group-tog "other unpeeled 
vegetables"]
(using the existing TOG style)
Henrik
8-Mar-2006
[4441x2]
anton, that's not the point of it
the point is to have a button group that actually looks like a button 
group
Anton
8-Mar-2006
[4443x2]
Oh I see.
view layout [style group-tog tog [remove find face/parent-face/pane 
face append face/parent-face/pane face print [face/text]] with

 [related: 'default] across space -5 group-tog "Anton" group-tog "Henrik" 
 group-tog "vegetables"]
Henrik
8-Mar-2006
[4445]
not good enough :-)
Anton
8-Mar-2006
[4446]
what's missing ?
Henrik
8-Mar-2006
[4447x3]
well, first of all it's easy to tell that it's just buttons layered 
over eachother
which makes it look crude and simple and unprofessional
I like the BTN style, but it's underused in VID for other applications, 
such as a tab button group
Anton
8-Mar-2006
[4450]
Change the space -5 to -2 and it looks better.
Henrik
8-Mar-2006
[4451]
second, I use pane switching a lot and it's a hassle to write your 
own routines for that all the time. it should be much simpler.
Anton
8-Mar-2006
[4452]
Just write a couple of functions, face-to-front and face-to-back 
and you can reuse them many times.