World: r3wp

My guess is, that Anton made a function in REBOL like IMAGE used 
in the DRAW dialect. It takes 4 points and do some calculations producing 
a modified image. Like what I do in Canvas, when you use perspective. 
I'm using DRAW for that, Anton is converting the routine from AGG 
C++-source.

Maybe something like this:

view layout [box 400x400 effect [draw [image logo.gif 20x20 380x50 
300x380 40x100]]]

because we can
?

Not quite, although I think I could. What I have done is made a function 
which can transform a point from one space into another. Eg, for 
Geomol's example above, it maps from the image (logo.gif) space into 
the final rendered space shown on screen. So I could ask for any 
point in the image and find out where it is rendered to at the end.

It's good because it matches exactly the algorithm AGG uses to draw 
the image (I am pretty sure anyway .:)

Yep, locked on solid :)

Anton, what is your plan with it? For what use do you need such a 
space-transformation routine?

Ahaha.... :)

Think - reverse transform.

You have a "twisted" image and want the original one!? :-)

not image - individual points, one at a time

Why View should not admit defeat.
http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/virtual-face_xvid.avi

anton, ahhh, so that's what you needed it for :-) very, very good 
demo

that is pretty neat anton!

actually that is almost slashdottable

but I wouldn't do that to anton's server...

where's the source?

somewhere in the Australian wilderness?

I wouldn't call Melbourne a wilderness!

Not that I would ask a user to use a rotated and skewed gui..!

Why not ? Novell with their XGL on the rotated desktop thinks it's 
useful.

Actually Melbourne is a bit of a wilderness, in a way.

source coming... hang on

Not familiar with Novell/XGL.  Got a link?

it's a linux thing

Here, but there is a video somewhere...
http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/

I"m trying to install Suse on a new AMD motherboard and it doesn't 
recognise the video on the motherboard, and so get some rather disturbing 
effects.

Some videos of XGL here:
http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10video/

Ah here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7587965514994593432&q=xgl&pl=true

too bad the framerate is so low. the effects are completely smooth

You can download the video to get smoother playback locally.

do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/demo-virtual-face.r

Tested on View 1.3.2.3.1

Hehe, that's pretty fun! :-) Good job!

Thanks, appreciate all the feedback.

Maybe reverse perspective transform routine should be in rebcode 
to get speed?

Would be good, but that's not the bottleneck at all.

Anton: I can put the video on my surfnet account, bandwidt enough, 
so you can be slashdotted. Suppl me with a page with all the credits, 
and ...

/.

(credits for you, I'm just mirroring)

Wait wait ! I don't think it's good for "world" consumption.

question: are the events ent over TCP

No, not TCP.

You australians are so modest;-)

Ah.. of course you don't mean you're going to make a post to slashdot. 
Mirror as you wish.

Only if you need it, let me know if you get to much viewers. As long 
as it are only the rebelopers I guess it isn't necessary.

The events are captured in wake-event. Instead of just allowing wake-event 
to DO them, I simulate DO with my reverse-engineered version (mimic-do-event). 
Since I have programmed it I can add features like event-transparent 
faces.

If you can hook up the events to a tcp port we can give X a run for 
its money

My ISP will let me know if they are too flooded. :-) But I don't 
think it will be a problem.

Interesting... can't think what that allows immediately. Do you have 
an application in mind ? Why would that be better than handling events 
natively ?