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It just changes an existing registry setting, but it is easier.

I don't want any TweakUI - I talk about what comes with os as default 
.... I want to use rebol on many machines and am not willing/nor 
I will not be probably able, to install TweakUI on each of them ....

will look at TweakUI though, I use windows console often ...

Well, I want native console mode REBOL to integrate with other console 
mode apps and scripts, and for when I am already in console mode 
and need to do something without switching to a GUI. When I am in 
GUI mode already, the existing console is fine. I need both.

the problem with TweakUI is that it's a tool that makes windows usable 
:-) one has to wonder why MS engineers would write a tool to remove 
a lot of the nuisances in Windows, if Windows is already so great 
:-)

I would like to know though, if ppl do prefer identical behavior 
of console on each platform, some extended console functionality 
- e.g. multirow arrow navigation, coloring (simply close to editor), 
or they prefer to use OS native console ...

Brian - good point - both modes are probably usefull and both have 
its own advantages ...

TweakUI for Win9x through 2k:

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/winme/Install/1.0/WinMe/EN-US/Tweakui.exe
And for WinXP/2003:

    http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe

Sorry, tripped up by the AltMe bug. The second link is for WinXP/2003.

Win2003 might have it installed by default. It is here, but I can't 
remember doing so.

powertoys are other tools?

See for yourself.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

I find myself using TweakUI and the calculator (not available for 
Win2k) the most.

No, most of all I use "Open Command Window Here".

I will try that at home, as here at work I run W2K ... thanks for 
the pointer ....

Many of these are installers wrapped around registry settings, no 
more complicated than that.

Using rebol as shell is quitge nice. I wrap my favorit commands in 
functions, tab-completion for filenames and commands is there, call/console. 
i can mix pure rebol in, and want wrappers anyway for some long options.

don't forget ATTRIB for fast file finds from DOS console.  Quickest 
way I know.

It is fast, but I don't think it's able to look inside file contents 
as well.

Did anyone try to patch the behaviour of area? Especially I'd like 
to have:
- autoindent

- doubleclick on words in the area to do something interesting - 
e.g. look up in dictionary, use like a wiki word, ...
- maybe add additional shortcut keys.


I've tried to patch ctx-text/edit-text, but only was able to get 
no change at all, or crashes. Seems to be a bind problem:
ctx-text/edit-text: func[][] ;no change

ctx-text/edit-text: func[] bind [] in ctx-text 'edit-text ; unknown 
word ...

You need to bind in ctx-text AND system/view (double bind)

Thanks Didier!

One of the challenges I am facing in expanding my EMR is how to capture 
the consultation.  At the moment I am using free text.  But some 
products use lots of check boxes and based upon those ... more check 
boxes appear.  And then a natural language sentence is constructed.

Another way is to have the sentence prebuilt .. and there are active 
words eg yes/no in the sentence you can click on to change, or to 
enter values eg. temperature of xxx C.

How feasible is it to do the latter in View?

In some ways I guess it is like trying to build a rich text display 
where the words are active.

Graham, you could use the link style to popup an option list when 
clicked. Though that will be tedious for data entry. alternately 
use the autofill style for text boxes when you want both free text 
and or a standard list.

I was thinking of the link style .. something unobtrusive.

>> get first [help.gif]
== make image! .....

how do I get the size of the image this way?

hmm, i guess you don't. you'll need a temp var.

>> img-size: func [img] [img/size]
>> img-size logo.gif
== 100x24

something that should be RAMBO'ed?

I don't think it's that important. It's a small inconvenience isn't 
it ?

But for some fun, you might be able to do something like this:
>> do to-path [help.gif size]
== 48x48

there probably are other cases like this.

well, sure. I just thought that there would be a way, like using 
first, second and third on objects

yes, but first etc have a different meaning already

what i really want, is the abilty to list the available refinements 
of a datatype.

Mmm.. in which context do you want that ? Autodocumentation ? Just 
quick console help ?

it should be part of reflexivity. you can access the components of 
an object; you should be able to access the components of everything.

(security and modules aside)

maybe the select action could be overloaded to do what Henrik wants. 
i'm not too much in favor of overloading functions though.

(that is, select something 'word would be always equivalent to something/word)

I think a separate function such as ACCESS should do that. SELECT 
should be left alone to do its series operations as usual.

How about expanding 'in to cover more than just objects?

I imagine:
	access help.gif 'size ; == 48x48

I think that might slow down IN... not sure.

i don't propose changing select. i propose enabling it for more datatypes.

in: you can't have a word bound to an image :)

(ie. same as Gabriele's comment about overloading.)