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Graham 13-May-2006 [5047x2] | text-list does not have double/alt click support. |
engage: func [f a e] [ ; A click event has happened. if a = 'down [ ; Is it on a valid element? if cnt > length? slf/data [exit] ; If not extended selection, clear other selections: if not e/control [f/state: cnt clear picked] ; Set selection and call the action function: alter picked f/text do :act slf f/text ] if a = 'up [f/state: none] show pane ] | |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5049] | Can I lock FIELD ? (something like field/edit?: no) |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5050] | Rebolek - use label instead? uh, hard to change when layout is out already .... I have disable/enable functions, but it works only for mouse sadly, you can still tab to the field ... |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5051] | Pekr: that may be enough for me, I'm using just one field, so probably no problem with tab. |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5052x2] | you will have to unfocus it somehow though ... |
ok, will look for the code ... | |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5054] | thanks |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5055] | sent you an email right now - mine, not sure how actual version, but also found Volker's version on rebol org - I would probably better trust Volker's code :-) |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5056] | great, I'll check it, thanks |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5057] | hehe, I told you - Volker's one even disables field content for keyboard :-) |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5058] | great, I've checked Volker's code and it's exactly what I wanted, thanks! |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5059x2] | great ... |
have I told you I miss such things in View by default? :-) | |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5061] | Probably yes, but the list of things you're missing is long, as we all know ;o))) |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5062] | I am not sure, just .... ah, let me think .... well, it is long, you are right :-) |
Rebolek 17-May-2006 [5063] | But I agree this should be part of View, specially if the code takes only 20 lines |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5064] | hmm, but maybe we should have higher concept - kind of methods? Well, not once again (I was thinking about accessors and their non-fully developed potential) ... the most difficult part for new View will be - consistent look ... and the look should count in things like disable/enable, display the widget has focus ... |
Henrik 17-May-2006 [5065] | having SET-FACE being implemented consistently across all faces would be a big step forward. |
Pekr 17-May-2006 [5066x3] | I voted for set-face 'attribute value - much more flexible than plain set-face value .... |
you could rewrite other methods too | |
rewrite in the sense of rewriting engine = override :-) | |
Anton 17-May-2006 [5069x2] | view layout [f: field tog "enabled" "disabled" [either value [feel: f/feel f/feel: none][f/feel: feel]]] |
Better... view layout [f: field feel [] tog "enabled" "disabled" [f/feel/detect: all [value func [face event][none]]]] | |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5071x3] | should request-date/date 25-Jun-2006 bring me to that day? It does so for the first time only, consecutive invocation fails ... submitting to rambo .. |
ah, it is there already .... | |
one question - is there already a group formed for new View? I would like to know, where should (could) we post our requirements. I would not like to see some fundamental UI design mistakes repeated, so I want to be sure, I voiced my ideas .... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5074] | pekr, matters are being taken care of :-) |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5075x2] | well, it is not enough. I know that Carl wants to have focused group for that, but there should be place, where other could place their requirements |
or .... such group should produce UI guidelines for others to see ... that would be even better, so the rest of us - ready-to-test-hungry-rebol3-ers, could be sure, everything is under control :-)) | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5077] | well, currently it's not that far yet, but maybe it would be nice with an open brainstorming group which we could study and grab the good parts from. |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5078x3] | hmm, many ideas is lost with lots of surrounding chat ... maybe docs plus chat .... |
I want to be sure, new VID (Whatever it is called) will be fully keyboard ready, that widgets can be disabled/enabled, focused/unfocused and that all this is visually reflected ... | |
... so proper tabbing system is my high concern .... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5081] | everything you mention is part of the requirements |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5082x2] | ok, I don't need to know more then :-) |
.... maybe, if rich-text is part of the game, then underlined letters hor hot-keys :-) | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5084x2] | at least from what I can see here, it addresses almost all aspects of what is currently missing from VID. whether all this will be implemented immediately or over a longer period I don't know. |
better get back to work on it ;-) | |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5086x3] | I hope system is implemented from scratch upon new View kernel .... |
take localisation into account (e.g. calendar does not use system/locale), and if you will implement set get for styles, it would be good to have it kind of rewrite methods .... set-face 'parameter value, not just set-face 'value - unnecessary limited :-) | |
well, I should stop talking .... the best of us are on the project, so .... otoh really, while it is closed project, it would be nice for others to see the proposal, to be sure, that it fits the idea of most ppl ... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5089] | yeah, well I'm not sure how much I can say about it. it would be inappropriate to say something that may not turn out to get implemented anyway :-) I'm pretty sure it'll kick ass though. |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5090] | I am not sure it satisfies my hungry eyes :-) Well, maybe I could find Gnome UI guidelines? Or something like that? |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5091] | I have to go, sorry :-) |
Gregg 22-May-2006 [5092] | http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/references.html |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5093x2] | http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ |
those guys put really lots of work into it .... | |
Anton 22-May-2006 [5095x2] | For all you guys maintaining tutorials etc. Here is a couple of polished demos, a simpler one and a more advanced one, a couple of snapshots on the way to implementing your own list with drag-n-drop: |
do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag.r do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag-drop.r | |
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