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[View] discuss view related issues

Anton
17-May-2006
[5070]
Better...

view layout [f: field feel [] tog "enabled" "disabled" [f/feel/detect: 
all [value func [face event][none]]]]
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5071x3]
should request-date/date 25-Jun-2006 bring me to that day? It does 
so for the first time only, consecutive invocation fails ... submitting 
to rambo ..
ah, it is there already ....
one question - is there already a group formed for new View? I would 
like to know, where should (could) we post our requirements. I would 
not like to see some fundamental UI design mistakes repeated, so 
I want to be sure, I voiced my ideas ....
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5074]
pekr, matters are being taken care of :-)
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5075x2]
well, it is not enough. I know that Carl wants to have focused group 
for that, but there should be place, where other could place their 
requirements
or .... such group should produce UI guidelines for others to see 
... that would be even better, so the rest of us - ready-to-test-hungry-rebol3-ers, 
could be sure, everything is under control :-))
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5077]
well, currently it's not that far yet, but maybe it would be nice 
with an open brainstorming group which we could study and grab the 
good parts from.
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5078x3]
hmm, many ideas is lost with lots of surrounding chat ... maybe docs 
plus chat ....
I want to be sure, new VID (Whatever it is called) will be fully 
keyboard ready, that widgets can be disabled/enabled, focused/unfocused 
and that all this is visually reflected ...
... so proper tabbing system is my high concern ....
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5081]
everything you mention is part of the requirements
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5082x2]
ok, I don't need to know more then :-)
.... maybe, if rich-text is part of the game, then underlined letters 
hor hot-keys :-)
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5084x2]
at least from what I can see here, it addresses almost all aspects 
of what is currently missing from VID. whether all this will be implemented 
immediately or over a longer period I don't know.
better get back to work on it ;-)
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5086x3]
I hope system is implemented from scratch upon new View kernel ....
take localisation into account (e.g. calendar does not use system/locale), 
and if you will implement set get for styles, it would be good to 
have it kind of rewrite methods .... set-face 'parameter value, not 
just set-face 'value - unnecessary limited :-)
well, I should stop talking .... the best of us are on the project, 
so .... otoh really, while it is closed project, it would be nice 
for others to see the proposal, to be sure, that it fits the idea 
of most ppl ...
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5089]
yeah, well I'm not sure how much I can say about it. it would be 
inappropriate to say something that may not turn out to get implemented 
anyway :-) I'm pretty sure it'll kick ass though.
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5090]
I am not sure it satisfies my hungry eyes :-) Well, maybe I could 
find Gnome UI guidelines? Or something like that?
Henrik
22-May-2006
[5091]
I have to go, sorry :-)
Gregg
22-May-2006
[5092]
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/references.html
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5093x2]
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/
those guys put really lots of work into it ....
Anton
22-May-2006
[5095x2]
For all you guys maintaining tutorials etc. Here is a couple of polished 
demos, a simpler one and a more advanced one, a couple of snapshots 
on the way to implementing your own list with drag-n-drop:
do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag.r

do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag-drop.r
Pekr
22-May-2006
[5097]
huh, ha, looks nice :-) Is that your engine you worked on earlier, 
which would let you do your own grid?
Anton
22-May-2006
[5098]
no, simple demo.
Anton
23-May-2006
[5099x2]
Ah gosh! I just noticed that the official Rebsite index has changed 
from 
http://www.reboltech.com/index.r
to
http://www.rebol.net/reb/index.r


Anyone know when this happened or why it was changed ? (I seem to 
remember a server change a while back)
Anyone know who is currently maintaining the index ?
Pekr
23-May-2006
[5101]
the quickest way imo is to contact Carl via feedback or Gabriele 
here to ask Carl ....
Anton
23-May-2006
[5102]
I think I will do that.
[unknown: 10]
27-May-2006
[5103]
Is it actualy possible in view/pro to create a thread or a process 
when using the 'call command? Somehow its fully blocking under rebol 
using this... If anyone has a hint on how to detach a 'call process 
from rebol ;-) let me know...  Im seeking interaction from the an 
/output which should be put in an GUI window of /View...
Graham
27-May-2006
[5104]
try using Dockimbel's asyn call
Gabriele
28-May-2006
[5105]
/output implies /wait. you need to use CALL without refinements if 
you want it to be async, or use the ASYNC-CALL function in the Detective 
(which is based on Nenad's on Windows, and uses my implementation 
on Linux/Unix).
Henrik
28-May-2006
[5106x2]
is KEY color for an image supposed to overwrite the key color in 
the image with transparency permanently? I need to load the image 
again to restore it to its original state.
the manual doesn't mention this
[unknown: 10]
28-May-2006
[5108]
thanks
Henrik
28-May-2006
[5109]
oh... seems to be related to not copying the image first.
Anton
28-May-2006
[5110]
effects in the EFFECT pipeline do not modify the original image.
Henrik
28-May-2006
[5111x2]
well, it did here
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/imagebug/imagebug.r
Anton
28-May-2006
[5113]
Hmm... nice one. The alpha channel is permanently modified. I think 
that's a bug for RAMBO.
Anton
29-May-2006
[5114]
OK - submitted to RAMBO.
Henrik
31-May-2006
[5115x2]
which function again is used to activate the emailer? alive? is FALSE. 
I can't seem to find it.
oh, just by setting ALIVE? true
Henrik
1-Jun-2006
[5117]
not quite enough apparently. If  I activate the emailer from the 
console and the SMTP server, etc. is not set correctly, it correctly 
prompts this, but it then doesn't start the viewtop to let me set 
this with SET-USER. Instead it just shows the emailer window.
Volker
1-Jun-2006
[5118]
why not brosing mailto: ?
Anton
1-Jun-2006
[5119]
Henrik, just look through ctx-viewtop to see where it opens the network 
settings window. Then you can try hack ctx-emailer to make the same 
call.