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Anton 17-May-2006 [5070] | Better... view layout [f: field feel [] tog "enabled" "disabled" [f/feel/detect: all [value func [face event][none]]]] |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5071x3] | should request-date/date 25-Jun-2006 bring me to that day? It does so for the first time only, consecutive invocation fails ... submitting to rambo .. |
ah, it is there already .... | |
one question - is there already a group formed for new View? I would like to know, where should (could) we post our requirements. I would not like to see some fundamental UI design mistakes repeated, so I want to be sure, I voiced my ideas .... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5074] | pekr, matters are being taken care of :-) |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5075x2] | well, it is not enough. I know that Carl wants to have focused group for that, but there should be place, where other could place their requirements |
or .... such group should produce UI guidelines for others to see ... that would be even better, so the rest of us - ready-to-test-hungry-rebol3-ers, could be sure, everything is under control :-)) | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5077] | well, currently it's not that far yet, but maybe it would be nice with an open brainstorming group which we could study and grab the good parts from. |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5078x3] | hmm, many ideas is lost with lots of surrounding chat ... maybe docs plus chat .... |
I want to be sure, new VID (Whatever it is called) will be fully keyboard ready, that widgets can be disabled/enabled, focused/unfocused and that all this is visually reflected ... | |
... so proper tabbing system is my high concern .... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5081] | everything you mention is part of the requirements |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5082x2] | ok, I don't need to know more then :-) |
.... maybe, if rich-text is part of the game, then underlined letters hor hot-keys :-) | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5084x2] | at least from what I can see here, it addresses almost all aspects of what is currently missing from VID. whether all this will be implemented immediately or over a longer period I don't know. |
better get back to work on it ;-) | |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5086x3] | I hope system is implemented from scratch upon new View kernel .... |
take localisation into account (e.g. calendar does not use system/locale), and if you will implement set get for styles, it would be good to have it kind of rewrite methods .... set-face 'parameter value, not just set-face 'value - unnecessary limited :-) | |
well, I should stop talking .... the best of us are on the project, so .... otoh really, while it is closed project, it would be nice for others to see the proposal, to be sure, that it fits the idea of most ppl ... | |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5089] | yeah, well I'm not sure how much I can say about it. it would be inappropriate to say something that may not turn out to get implemented anyway :-) I'm pretty sure it'll kick ass though. |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5090] | I am not sure it satisfies my hungry eyes :-) Well, maybe I could find Gnome UI guidelines? Or something like that? |
Henrik 22-May-2006 [5091] | I have to go, sorry :-) |
Gregg 22-May-2006 [5092] | http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/references.html |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5093x2] | http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/ |
those guys put really lots of work into it .... | |
Anton 22-May-2006 [5095x2] | For all you guys maintaining tutorials etc. Here is a couple of polished demos, a simpler one and a more advanced one, a couple of snapshots on the way to implementing your own list with drag-n-drop: |
do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag.r do http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/gui/iterated/iterated-face-drag-drop.r | |
Pekr 22-May-2006 [5097] | huh, ha, looks nice :-) Is that your engine you worked on earlier, which would let you do your own grid? |
Anton 22-May-2006 [5098] | no, simple demo. |
Anton 23-May-2006 [5099x2] | Ah gosh! I just noticed that the official Rebsite index has changed from http://www.reboltech.com/index.r to http://www.rebol.net/reb/index.r Anyone know when this happened or why it was changed ? (I seem to remember a server change a while back) |
Anyone know who is currently maintaining the index ? | |
Pekr 23-May-2006 [5101] | the quickest way imo is to contact Carl via feedback or Gabriele here to ask Carl .... |
Anton 23-May-2006 [5102] | I think I will do that. |
[unknown: 10] 27-May-2006 [5103] | Is it actualy possible in view/pro to create a thread or a process when using the 'call command? Somehow its fully blocking under rebol using this... If anyone has a hint on how to detach a 'call process from rebol ;-) let me know... Im seeking interaction from the an /output which should be put in an GUI window of /View... |
Graham 27-May-2006 [5104] | try using Dockimbel's asyn call |
Gabriele 28-May-2006 [5105] | /output implies /wait. you need to use CALL without refinements if you want it to be async, or use the ASYNC-CALL function in the Detective (which is based on Nenad's on Windows, and uses my implementation on Linux/Unix). |
Henrik 28-May-2006 [5106x2] | is KEY color for an image supposed to overwrite the key color in the image with transparency permanently? I need to load the image again to restore it to its original state. |
the manual doesn't mention this | |
[unknown: 10] 28-May-2006 [5108] | thanks |
Henrik 28-May-2006 [5109] | oh... seems to be related to not copying the image first. |
Anton 28-May-2006 [5110] | effects in the EFFECT pipeline do not modify the original image. |
Henrik 28-May-2006 [5111x2] | well, it did here |
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/imagebug/imagebug.r | |
Anton 28-May-2006 [5113] | Hmm... nice one. The alpha channel is permanently modified. I think that's a bug for RAMBO. |
Anton 29-May-2006 [5114] | OK - submitted to RAMBO. |
Henrik 31-May-2006 [5115x2] | which function again is used to activate the emailer? alive? is FALSE. I can't seem to find it. |
oh, just by setting ALIVE? true | |
Henrik 1-Jun-2006 [5117] | not quite enough apparently. If I activate the emailer from the console and the SMTP server, etc. is not set correctly, it correctly prompts this, but it then doesn't start the viewtop to let me set this with SET-USER. Instead it just shows the emailer window. |
Volker 1-Jun-2006 [5118] | why not brosing mailto: ? |
Anton 1-Jun-2006 [5119] | Henrik, just look through ctx-viewtop to see where it opens the network settings window. Then you can try hack ctx-emailer to make the same call. |
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