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Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6016] | doh... sorry. |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6017] | I'm creating the image in a block, then using draw to display the final image. |
Maxim 2-Nov-2006 [6018x3] | can you give us a real equivalent example? |
there are many possible edge defects... seeing them will help us cure the booboo :-) | |
right now we're like swatting flies in the dark... with you having the infra red goggles and saying: LEFT ! LEFT! .. oh no RIGHT! RIGHT ;-) | |
Brock 2-Nov-2006 [6021x6] | hilight-colour: 255.0.0 ;0.112.99 ;request-color font-style: make face/font [style: 'bold name: "font-sans-serif" size: 26] hilights: [ transform 0 1 1 0x0 0x0 fill-pen snow pen snow ;white circle circle 10x10 9 fill-pen black pen black ;black circle circle 13x13 9 fill-pen hilight-colour ;0.112.99 pen hilight-colour ;serve dark green - 0.112.99 circle 11x11 9 fill-pen snow pen snow font font-style text 1 6x0 "*" ] view center-face out: layout [ origin 0 bx: box 23x23 50.50.50 effect [draw hilights effect []][ file: request-file/only/save/file %hilight.png if not file [exit] if not find file ".png" [append file ".png"] save/png file to-image bx img: load file colour: pick img 1x1 repeat i length? img [if colour = pick img i [poke img i 0.0.0.255]] save/png file img ] ] |
this is a stripped down version (this time one that works without error) | |
clicking on the image brings up the save requestor | |
Using Gabriel's method creates a clean image without the fringing.... | |
hilight-colour: 255.0.0 ;0.112.99 ;request-color font-style: make face/font [style: 'bold name: "font-sans-serif" size: 26] img: make image! 23x23 img/alpha: 255 ;make bg transparent draw img [ transform 0 1 1 0x0 0x0 fill-pen snow pen snow ;white circle circle 10x10 9 fill-pen black pen black ;black circle circle 13x13 9 fill-pen hilight-colour ;0.112.99 pen hilight-colour ;serve dark green - 0.112.99 circle 11x11 9 fill-pen snow pen snow font font-style text 1 6x0 "*" ] file: request-file/only/save/file %hilight.png if not file [exit] if not find file ".png" [append file ".png"] save/png file img | |
Thanks all for your input/suggestions. | |
Anton 3-Nov-2006 [6027] | The "bulk-set alpha" method as shown by Gabriele should evaluate quite a lot faster, too. |
Brock 3-Nov-2006 [6028] | I had problems with his version for resizine the image on the fly. I didn't look at it very long. I'm rethinking whether I need the resize feature as I will likely build a small GUI where are the parameters are set. |
Graham 5-Nov-2006 [6029] | I have access to the F1 - F12 keys .. but what about the Alt-F1 - F12, or other modifiers? |
Maxim 5-Nov-2006 [6030x4] | in the event you have alt/shift/ctrl members. event/shift for example. |
when set to true the modifier was pressed when you pressed the key. | |
combinations exist. | |
the Alt key is sometimes consumed by the OS, same for the Tab... I think someone mentionned that tab + shift is never sent to REBOL. | |
Graham 5-Nov-2006 [6034] | I have to see if rebgui allows me all of this ... |
Louis 5-Nov-2006 [6035x2] | I'm looking for a script to allow communication between users on a lan. rim.r looks like it would work, but the cgi script that ties it together is missing. Does anyone have it? |
Is something even better available? | |
Anton 6-Nov-2006 [6037x2] | There is only event/control and event/shift, nothing to detect Alt key. |
Tab and Shift+Tab can be trapped by Rebol. But Ctrl+Tab cannot be caught by Rebol because Windows consumes this key event before it is sent to the application window (eg. Rebol's window). | |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6039] | wasn't there the Alt support in a prior version. I am almost shure I used to support it in an old app of mine... |
Anton 6-Nov-2006 [6040] | nope |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [6041] | but it can be surelly overriden, or can't it? |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6042x3] | events are a datatype not objects, you cannot set any values in them. |
which is why Anton reversed enginerred the do-face mechanism... but in any case, the events are generated by the internal REBOL HAL which accepts some (but not all) OS events and feeds the event port with them. | |
it has been a long standing request that more OS events been sent to scripts... | |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [6045x2] | and that was my point. It could accept even ctrl+tab, as that is trappable. But, I remember how Holger argued with me about cross-platform issues .... |
as long as Cyphre is on View part of R3, I believe the situation will be corrected :-) | |
Maxim 6-Nov-2006 [6047x5] | ahh cross platform is a moot point for many of us. really... the fact that REBOL runs on all platforms is very good. |
the fact that OUR apps run on all apps is not needed in many/most cases | |
especialy in corp env. and in any case, we will adapt our apps to use any os features REBOL gives us :-) | |
that's the point for a user to use Apple or windows... why strip their power from them.? | |
example... why no OS icon drag support in apple and window. | |
Anton 6-Nov-2006 [6052] | Rebol gives you all the OS features you can digest... via the External Library Interface. |
Maxim 7-Nov-2006 [6053x3] | yes, just like following 3 years of mechanics will allow me to change my pistons in my car myself... the question. is... do I want to? when the whole platform is the one taking away those events! for compatibilitie's sake? |
and even then... that means I have to try and make it work for apple... hum.. I dont' own one, how can I make it work. | |
(sorry if I sound negative here, its not against you... I'm just a bit tired these days...) | |
Anton 7-Nov-2006 [6056] | You just gotta relax and focus a bit. |
Maxim 7-Nov-2006 [6057x2] | hehe |
but Anton, is it really possible to add icon drag events in a rebol window? how will I receive my events within the wake-event? AFAICT... its not dooable. | |
Anton 7-Nov-2006 [6059x5] | You mean from the OS ? Yes, it is, I far as I remember. |
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=sys-port-drag-accept.r | |
The above works for Windows. | |
the whole platform is the one taking away those events! -- that's kind of saying it the other way around. The platform (rebol) has not provided us with an OS-independant way of trapping drag events, yet. | |
You could express everything that you want but do not have as something "taken away" from you. That's the "glass half-empty" way of looking at things. Are you a programmer or not ? If you want something, just make it ! If it's hard, work hard ! The whole art of programming is to make something previously difficult, easy. | |
Maxim 7-Nov-2006 [6064x2] | I don' t have the time to take a week getting my hands in MS window's dev stuff just to implement icon support. (for one platform) That's one feature out of SOOOOOOO many. I am happy if you have the time to implement such tricks. But then only some of the hard core will benefit.. since OS-lib interface is not free! We need a second, (and compatible) lower-level API (like amiga has vanilla and direct). then its just up to RT to provide a switch case of all supported features it can take from a host OS. and let us pick out of that. I use REBOL cause its more productive. I want to stay in REBOL. and I just wish VIEW where less limiting. |
VIEW is the one deciding for me what is usefull or not... yes it takes a raw freedom away from me. It is deciding in my place what events IT listens to. There are ways for it to allow us to decide. and this would allow us to take advantage of some OS features. I remember reading a chat between Jaime and Carl where they where talking about OSX events and stuff... basically they where looking at WHAT events to handle and in what apis... so what I (and sooo many others have asked) is possible. | |
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