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I believe it rounds them. If you want slower rates, use a time! value 
(e.g. 0:0:2 for every two seconds).

Maxim, catching all *inactive*, not simply closed.

Gregg, I'm working on that way now. For minimal impact, I only start 
time events if they aren't running already, and then I restore the 
window/rate after I catch the first time event.

This version uses the "deadman switch" timer idea and is working 
ok.

do http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gui/demo-all-windows-inactive-handler.r

http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gui/all-windows-inactive-handler.r

The reason I need this is for a pop-menu system (implemented with 
windows). When a completely different application window becomes 
active, I want to close all menues and submenues.

And it seems to be working for this application.. :) Now the long 
test...

oh no it's buggy. it works sometimes and sometimes not. Damn, time 
events are tricky.

ahhh didn't notice the subtility.

thanks gregg

Has anyone done any work on the Rebol Desktop?

I have an application that might be able to make use of a local web-page 
like interface to launch Word Documents and web page links.

The current application (not my own) uses an HTML page to list all 
this information, but new versions of MS apps all open the .doc files 
in the browser window instead of launching Word.  The problem here 
is the .doc files contain macros that run when executed, but this 
does not happen through the browser.  The Word templates also get 
auto-updated if new versions are available, but this is handled by 
a secondary .exe file.

The templates are stored on the users local computer and essentially 
build sales documents based on basic user input.

Just wondering if this sounds like something that a modified desktop 
would be able to do.  I know this is exactly what IOS does, but this 
is overkill for this simple document generating tool.

I've created a [temporary] group called Desktop as that is likely 
a better place to discuss this topic.

Hi all, anyone remember an easy to tell if the user called the action 
of a field from tab or enter?  


This is causing headaches in user comprehension... windows does not 
react the same way with enter and tab...


right now, pressing tab, triggers actions, which normally should 
only occur when "enter" is pressed.

I think you have to override the feel.

hahahahahah  the field's feel is a typical View obscurity built from 
hidden contexts which are only availble at boot time  :-(

we can loose 6 hours trying to map all that back up... maybe someone 
has already done it here?  I have the sdk, I could look into it... 
but its just a question of time... I've got more important code to 
write than searching for this right now.

Yeah, the View system isn't the easiest thing to work with sometimes. 
OTOH, it's not so bad when compared to, say, writing Windows custom 
controls.

Not saying its better else where  ;-) ... I guess I'll have to make 
a memoriser within a custom key handler callback in GLayout. that 
way within the action I can check if the last key press was tab or 
enter.  :-)

Maxim, FIELD's FEEL is not so obscure. You need to bind to CTX-TEXT 
and SYSTEM/VIEW, that's all.

Familiarity with the code and a willingness to explore is all you 
need. Eventually you realise those two contexts are the most important 
ones in the View system.

Actually, investigating what happens when you press tab leads to 
the following solution:

view layout [field with [refocus: func [shift][print "tab pressed"]][print 
"action"]]

The way to this solution:
print mold svv/vid-styles/field/feel  ; notice: "edit-text"

print mold get in ctx-text 'edit-text  ; notice: "tab-char" handler

Familiarity with the code and a willingness to explore is all you 
need. Eventually you realise those two contexts are the most important 
ones in the View system.

  I have been peeking around for since view 1.0 and still continue 
  to find new things... sometimes, its just sucha pain, that I give 
  up.  the ctx-text cannot  be infered by the code... so I have never 
  been able to find it.

which is why I ask... cause for other things, I have found the solution 
which others might not have.

this is what I like about our community.  we all share. not much 
"protection" going on here.

In this example, I have been trying to find the damned edit-text 
funtion for a few hours when I wanted to edit and just didnt' find 
it.  system/words is huge.  I'm happy you found it... I just never 
got to it...yet I found out other things.

I am one of the people who can claim a certain level of advancement 
with VID and view, and yet why do I keep fiddling around with such 
things...  there are so many little details to remember that it comes 
to a point where I keep forgetting what I haven't played with within 
a year... but it always comes back to bite me the year after ;-)

That's why we write things down :)

hehe you have time?

Yes, I like to write things down that I think will save me time later. 
x N

But, if it took you more than 15 minutes to find edit-text, why didn't 
you just ask someone here ?

sometimes... we don't have access to the good things in life.

I completely agree with Maxim, although I don't forget the things, 
but it still takes a long time to figure out how to do trivial stuff 
with a field.

anyone know if there is a way to make image! with a filled bg color?

I can use a face and call to-image on it, but I'd think that creating 
the image directly is faster, especially since I wanted to use the 
draw command directly on the bitmap too.

make image! [20x20 red], I think

nope

a ha... has to be reduced first  :-)

thanks.

this works:

make image! [20x20 255.0.0]

you can make a transparent image too with 0.0.0.255

strange, I am sure I tried the above yesterday at 2 AM..  but didn't 
get a result... might have tried with to-image

although I am already using 
make image! 20x20 


when you've slept 15 hours in 4 days... I guess the mind gets a bit 
fuzzy.

Hi,


   Anyone know the inner workings of the  browse  native under Linux? 
    I lost a working browse with 2.7.5, and had to put in the old hack 
   using call.   I was hoping I could just configure my Linux to help 
   the native browse find a browser.

It doesn't.

i haven't checked the recent versions... but browse used to just 
call /usr/bin/netscape (or variants of that) on unix.