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amacleod 1-Aug-2008 [7916x2] | I got it to scroll to my index point but I acn't find the fuction to update the scroll bar. |
Got it! my-scroll-panel/access/set-scroll-offset my-scroll-panel 0x-100 After trying every combo!!! | |
Graham 2-Aug-2008 [7918] | was the accessor scroll-panel ever incorporated into any vid widget? |
amacleod 4-Aug-2008 [7919] | I got Cypher's tree widget to work with Anton's scroll-panel...sort of. Problem was tree widget uses cypher's scroll-panel style which of course works diferently from Anton's. Now I'm forced to use both and the tree scroll-panel does not display sliders correctly. I'm going to either need to find a way for the tree list to use Anton's scroll-panel or add the extra functionality to cypher's scroll-panel style...or start from scratch. |
amacleod 7-Aug-2008 [7920] | New problem with Anton's scroll-panel style. When I select text I loose mouse scroll-wheel use and Keyboard scroll functionality. Altme does not have this problem. I guess it's inherent to the style. |
Henrik 7-Aug-2008 [7921] | sounds like a focus problem |
amacleod 7-Aug-2008 [7922x3] | Yes. I tried a feel/event function to trap the up event on the mouse and it restores my scroll functionality but I'm not able to highlight now! |
Should I look to patch the style or place the fix somewhere in my code? | |
I'm able to re-focus the scroll panel within my "clip" function (to save the highlighted text) but if I just click in a text area or highlight and not save it using hte clip function I can not get scrolling back. | |
BrettH 8-Aug-2008 [7925] | I have a similar problem re: scrolling, and I've tried the suggstions by amacleod without success, here I've copied a modified version of cookbook-scroller in the hope someone can suggest a solution.Hi, I'm trying to write a data entry form with many fields, this form is longer than a typical monitor viewing area. Creating the form is easy, but I cannot work out how to scroll the whole form 'up/down' when the user TAB's out of the last showing field bottom and display the 'hidden' fields. Rebol actually does TAB to the next field and accepts data entry but you cannot see it without manually moving the scroll slider. How do I programmatically make the form 'move' up/down ? and sync the slider ? I've tried "all" the example code I can find and none seem to do the trick :-) In the attached (modified cookbook-scroller.r) program I've added a few fields to illustrate the problem. My need is for rapid data entry and using the mouse is really not a option, The program accepts user data, user TABS to navigate to next field, form slides as necessary, upon last field, data is saved, form cleared, cursor placed at first field, data entry continues. Thanks for any ideas. ;; =============================== rebol ["cookbook-scroller2.r"] sub-panel: layout [ across origin 5 style label text bold right 60 backcolor tan h2 leaf "Scrolling Sub Panel" return label "Name:" f1: field return label "Email:" f2: field return label "Info:" f3: area wrap return label "Month:" l1: text-list data system/locale/months return label "Day:" s1: slider 200x20 return label button "Submit" button "Cancel" [quit] ] out: layout [ across h3 "Panel Scrolling Example" return space 0 p1: box 300x300 coal frame black s1: scroller 16x300 [scroll-panel-vert p1 s1] return s2: scroller 300x16 [scroll-panel-horz p1 s2] return ] p1/pane: sub-panel scroll-panel-vert: func [pnl bar][ pnl/pane/offset/y: negate bar/data * (max 0 pnl/pane/size/y - pnl/size/y) show pnl ] scroll-panel-horz: func [pnl bar][ pnl/pane/offset/x: negate bar/data * (max 0 pnl/pane/size/x - pnl/size/x) show pnl ] update-panel: func [pnl vbar hbar] [ pnl/pane/offset: 0x0 s1/data: s2/data: 0 vbar/redrag pnl/size/y / pnl/pane/size/y hbar/redrag pnl/size/x / pnl/pane/size/x show [pnl vbar hbar] ] update-panel p1 s1 s2 view out ;; ============ |
amacleod 8-Aug-2008 [7926x2] | You will need to know the offset value of each face you tab into. You will also need to detect which ace is currently focused. (Do not know how is is done). If you know these two things you can set the offset and "show" the face to junp to that location. Also, I do not know if all faces can be tabbed into such as your month list face.. |
If your just trying to avoid mouse use you can add keyboard control of scroll (page down, page up, arrow keys etc.) | |
BrettH 8-Aug-2008 [7928] | Thanks for your input. I removed the Month list type and replaced with fields. Tab does visit each one in turn, and accepts data enty even tho their not visible. ( until you slide) eg: label "Name:" f1: field return label "Email:" f2: field return label "Info:" f3: area wrap return label "More info: " f4: field return label "Even more ;" f5: field return As for the 'offset' info you mention, thats probably the key to the problem, and like you I have NO idea how to get this !! I've tried various code ideas attached to the TAB field exit without success. I'm not trying to avoid mouse use , I just want to program the data entry flow for user comfort, the user should still be able to use the mouse as needed. I think REBOL is a very interesting product but it does seem to have many 'holes' in fundemental GUI handling :-), on the one hand it offers the very easy to make GUI interface tool, then stuffs up drop-down-lists, sliders, TAB control, etc. |
Graham 8-Aug-2008 [7929] | we are waiting for Vid 3.4 |
BrettH 8-Aug-2008 [7930] | I've been "waiting" for the "perfect development tool" since 1964 !! :-) |
BrettH 9-Aug-2008 [7931] | Solved !!! Took a bit of fiddling around, but now the form moves down thru the fields as the user tabs out of a filed, and slides back to first field on tab out of last field. Mouse positioning via scroll bar still working. I left the trace print code in so you can observe its operation. See the comments in teh code for the changes I made to cookbook-scroller.r Now to try it with my own form. ;; ============================================== rebol ["cookbook-scroller-2-1.r" author "Brett Hallett 2008 " comment { Modified cookbook-scroller.r program to code automatic scrolling of fields on TAB, allows the form to have fields off the viewable page and automatically scroll up/down as the user leaves a field using TAB. -- display field position on TAB -- eg: print [ "f1 " f1/offset] ( for testing only !) -- scroll-panel-vert func modified with extra parameter ( a fields y offset ) -- compute offset value before calling scroll-panel-vert in out: layout ( stops scroller aborting !) } ] sub-panel: layout [ across origin 5 style label text bold right 60 backcolor tan h2 leaf "Scrolling Sub Panel" return label "Name:" f1: field [ print [ "f1 " f1/offset] scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f1/offset/y ] return label "Email:" f2: field [ print ["f2 " f2/offset] scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f2/offset/y ] return label "Info:" f3: area wrap [ print ["f3 " f3/offset] scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f3/offset/y ] return label "More info: " f4: field [ print ["f4 " f4/offset] scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f4/offset/y ] return label "Even more ;" f5: field [ print ["f5 " f5/offset ] scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f1/offset/y print "write collected data" clear-fields sub-panel ] return ;; notice how the first field offset is used to set the scroll position on last field exit button "Submit" [ print "Press Submit "] button "Cancel" [ print "Quit" quit] ] out: layout [ across h3 "Panel Scrolling Example" return space 0 p1: box 300x300 coal frame black s1: scroller 16x300 [scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 ( s1/data * (max 0 p1/pane/size/y - p1/size/y)) ] ;; compute offset value before calling scroll-panel-vert return s2: scroller 300x16 [scroll-panel-horz p1 s2] return ] p1/pane: sub-panel ;; scroll-panel-vert modified with extra parameter : fldoffset ( the y offset of the TAB'ded out of field ) scroll-panel-vert: func [pnl bar fldoffset][ pnl/pane/offset/y: negate fldoffset print ["pnl-vert " pnl/pane/offset/y] show pnl ] scroll-panel-horz: func [pnl bar][ pnl/pane/offset/x: negate bar/data * (max 0 pnl/pane/size/x - pnl/size/x) show pnl ] update-panel: func [pnl vbar hbar] [ pnl/pane/offset: 0x0 s1/data: s2/data: 0 vbar/redrag pnl/size/y / pnl/pane/size/y hbar/redrag pnl/size/x / pnl/pane/size/x show [pnl vbar hbar] ] update-panel p1 s1 s2 view out |
Graham 10-Aug-2008 [7932] | Good start .. now to get back tabbing to work, and also prevent scrolling when the bottom of the form is visible! :) |
BrettH 11-Aug-2008 [7933] | Nitt Picker !! But you right its a bit clunky at the moment, its only saving grace its that the data entry field remains in a static position !! :-) |
BrettH 16-Aug-2008 [7934] | I had another look at the scroller problem, and I'm beginning to see that it really does not work ! eg: == the scroll bar does not 'follow' the offset in the pane even when its new position is calculated and set == does not seem to be anyway to adjust the size of the moving bar itself. Unable to find any documentation. == even with calculating the length of the (sliding) form against its (viewable) panel length, the offset 'action' for TAB is not consistent in that the last form field is not always viewable by the tab action -- seems to be dependent upon the relationship between form length and panel size which you can adjust manually but thats hardly a useful solution. When you add a field the whole scroller stops working. ( Flaky !) == pretty disapointing really. Whats needed is a scroller that can be defined to operate with any pane and automatically following the field tabbing in that pane without coding required. "Follow the source --Luke!" Heres the latest code effort ! ;;====================================================== rebol ["cookbook-scroller-2-11.r" author "Brett Hallett 2008 " comment { Modified cookbook-scroller.r program to code automatic scrolling of fields on TAB, allows the form to have fields off the viewable page and automatically scroll up/down as the user leaves a field using TAB. -- display field position on TAB -- eg: print [ "f1 " f1/offset] ( for testing only !) -- scroll-panel-vert func modified with extra parameter ( fields y offset ) -- compute offset value before calling scroll-panel-vert in out: layout -- move trace to func print-pos for easier modification } ] sub-panel: layout [ size 300x350 across origin 0 style label text bold right 60 backcolor green h2 leaf "Scrolling Sub Panel" return label "Name:" f1: field [ print-pos "f1 " f1/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f1/offset/y ] return label "Email:" f2: field [ print-pos "f2 " f2/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f2/offset/y ] return label "Info:" f3: area 199x115 wrap [ print-pos "f3 " f3/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f3/offset/y ] return label "More info: " f4: field [ print-pos "f4 " f4/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f4/offset/y ] return ;; label "More info: " f41: field [ print-pos "f41 " f41/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f41/offset/y ] return ;;label "More info: " f42: field [ print-pos "f42 " f42/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 f42/offset/y ] return label "Last ;" f5: field [ print-pos "f5 " f5/offset scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 0 print "write collected data" clear-fields sub-panel ] return ;; notice how the offset of zero is used to set the scroll position to top of form on last field exit below pad 5 below ] btn-panel: layout [ across button "Submit" [ print "Press Submit "] button "Cancel" [ print "Quit" quit] ] main-form: layout [ across h3 "Panel Scrolling Example" return space 0 p1: box 300x250 coal frame black s1: scroller 16x250 [scroll-panel-vert p1 s1 ( s1/data * (max 0 p1/pane/size/y - p1/size/y)) ] ;; compute offset value before calling scroll-panel-vert return p2: box 300x50 ] print-pos: func [ fld pos ] [ print ["print-pos: " fld pos]] ;; scroll-panel-vert modified with extra parameter : fldoffset ( the y offset of the TAB'ded out of field ) scroll-panel-vert: func [pnl bar fldoffset][ ;; print [ "slider:" ( (max 0 p1/pane/size/y - pnl/size/y))] if fldoffset < ( (max 0 p1/pane/size/y - pnl/size/y)) [ pnl/pane/offset/y: negate fldoffset ] ;; print ["pnl-vert " pnl/pane/offset/y fldoffset] show pnl ] update-panel: func [pnl vbar pnl2] [ pnl/pane/offset: 0x0 s1/data: 0 vbar/redrag pnl/size/y / pnl/pane/size/y pnl2/pane/offset: 0x0 show [pnl vbar pnl2] ] p1/pane: sub-panel p2/pane: btn-panel update-panel p1 s1 p2 view main-form ;; ========================== |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7935x2] | Hi guys. amacleod, I see the scroll-panel problem, will look into it shortly. |
amacleod, the "selected text prevents scrolling in scroll-panel" problem is not the fault of scroll-panel. demo-scroll-panel.r shows this problem because I didn't want to make it too complex, by including the necessary global event handler to handle scroll events on non-focused scrolling faces (such as scroll-panels). I do have a demo somewhere which has the necessary global event handler somewhere... at least style-gallery.r uses it. | |
amacleod 18-Aug-2008 [7937] | Thanks Anton. |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7938] | Are you developing specifically for Windows ? (I just found a bug in scroll-wheel-handler.r on linux.) |
amacleod 18-Aug-2008 [7939x2] | Just checked Style-Gallery.r. Yes, it scrols when high-lighted |
For now!. Windows will surfice. | |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7941] | Ok, very good. :) I thought I might try to analyse the Cyphre's tree + Anton's scroll-panel problem you spoke of before. Did you just happen to make a minimal demo showing the problem ? |
amacleod 18-Aug-2008 [7942x2] | I got tree wiget to work but I had to include cypher's scroll panel as well. The problem with his slders not rendering I just realized was probably due to my not including his other stlyes he uses to raw the arrows etc. Unless you mean to get tree widget to use your style it was just a nameing problem if i remembr correctly. I went with a different solution and I am no longer using tree widget for he app. |
raw=draw | |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7944] | Ok, you've found another solution for now, but it's still interesting to me if there is a problem mixing styles from different authors. This 'should' (ought to) be possible without any conflict. |
amacleod 18-Aug-2008 [7945] | Anton, I'm looking at Style-Gallery... Should I include "focus-on-down-event-handler.r" in my app? And what about "scroll-wheel-handler.r" Does this add functionality? |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7946x5] | Yes and yes. They both bring benefits. Both are global handlers. |
In style-gallery.r, if you go to Global Options / Handlers, you can enable / disable each of the global event handlers (by pressing a toggle button) to see the effect on the user interface dynamically. | |
I've just uploaded gui/demo-scroll-wheel-handler.r and gui/scroll-wheel-handler.r is still there of course. | |
demo-scroll-wheel-handler.r shows how to - get and initialise the scroll-wheel-handler - create and open your windows - wait for events (VIEW does this) - clean up the scroll-wheel-handler | |
do http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gui/demo-scroll-wheel-handler.r | |
Henrik 18-Aug-2008 [7951x4] | Anton, link to http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gui/demo-scroll-area.r is dead |
I'm playing around with scroll-area. SET-FACE/NO-SHOW behaves like SET-FACE. | |
also no action block is available to run, as far as I can see. | |
is it possible to turn off the horizontal scroller? | |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7955] | Uploaded demo-scroll-area.r. |
Henrik 18-Aug-2008 [7956] | thanks |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7957x2] | Let me check out horizontal scroller ... |
I haven't programmed scrollers to be easily optional (though it's on to-do list). | |
Henrik 18-Aug-2008 [7959] | ok. would it be possible to turn on wrap? for the area, so the scroller might ignore horizontal movement? |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7960] | Have you tried setting wrap? already ? |
Henrik 18-Aug-2008 [7961] | I didn't yet study which face directly to set. I assume the text area is inside a pane? |
Anton 18-Aug-2008 [7962x4] | Yes. (This is in scroll-area.r script header, at the top of the Notes..) |
my-scroll-area/pane/1 or my-scroll-area/area/para/wrap?: true | |
Hmm.. it works, but there is an unwanted few pixels scroll when typing first line is wrapped. | |
Let me look why... | |
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