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[View] discuss view related issues
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Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9402x2] | get used to what other environments do ;-) |
... well, just kidding ... I thought it is a one-time job .... | |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9404] | Well, the point in using REBOL+my own closely integrated frameworks is to avoid third-party dependencies... |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9405] | Try contact Cyphre ... or I will ask him ... |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9406] | If R2/Draw is not going to be updated, there's no point in bothering him. |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9407] | Doc, I might have a resizer to make thumbs... |
Graham 12-Jan-2010 [9408] | can't you call R3 from R2 ? |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9409] | Ah nice! I started looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanczos_resampling to see if a REBOL implementation would be fast enough. |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9410x3] | Just a test: set 'resize func [img /local sz c1 c3 i2] [ if file? img [img: load-image img] scale: img/size/x / 160 sz: as-pair 160 round img/size/y / scale c1: 1x0 * sz c3: 0x1 * sz i2: to-image layout [origin 0 box sz effect [draw [image img 0x0 c1 sz c3]]] save/png %img.png i2 ] |
Call RESIZE with a loaded image. It'll save the img.png file, that'll have x-size of 160. It looks ok here. | |
Change the 160 to some other value, if you need other size. | |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9413] | That's almost the code I've made already. The issue is not having BILINEAR or any other good enough filter for thumbnails. |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9414] | (or give it as an argument) |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9415] | I'm working with 64x64 |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9416] | It seems to be ok without the filter, so maybe some default filter is in action. Let me check... |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9417] | Lanczos (IrfanView) is giving incredible good results. |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9418x2] | couldn't convolve filter be used somehow? |
I use lanczos in XnView by default ... | |
Henrik 12-Jan-2010 [9420] | you can blur the image before downscaling, but it can smear it more and the image isn't as clear. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9421] | How do you access CONVOLVE operator? (can't see it in Draw documentation) |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9422] | btw - nconvert is 1.8MB one single exe with all filtering capability of xnview inside. Should be cross-platform too IIRC. But - the licence might not fit, I don't know ... |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9423] | Doc, my version seems filtered to me. Have you tried? |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9424] | do http://www.rebol.com/view/demos/convolve.r |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9425x2] | Geomol: I'll try it right now. |
This is what I get with my current code : http://softinnov.org/tmp/thumbs64.png | |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9427] | Hm, different to say 100%, if my version is filtered. Some results look ok, others maybe not so good. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9428x4] | left=REBOL, right=IrfanView |
The original image is the CureCode homepage viewed inside Chrome (http://curecode.org) | |
Geomol: same result with your code. | |
Looking at the nconvert solution... | |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9432] | Yeah, you're right. Too bad. :-/ |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9433] | Looks like NConvert is a good solution for now. It's simple enough, supports the right filters and is multiplatform. |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9434] | I tried resize both under Windown and OS X with same result. No filtering. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9435x2] | Pekr, thanks for NConvert link and for pointing me to Convolve operator, pity it's not mentioned in any of the View doc I know of. |
Convolve effect could actually help get Lanczos filter implemented at mezz level with decent speed. | |
BenBran 12-Jan-2010 [9437] | view layout [text-list "this" "is" "a" "text" "list"] myFile.txt contains "this" "is" "a" "text" "list" how can I: view layout [text-list read %myFile.txt] ? tia |
Graham 12-Jan-2010 [9438x2] | everything inside the layout [ ] is not rebol code .. it's a dialect |
VID = Visual Interfaces Dialect. | |
Pekr 13-Jan-2010 [9440] | Doc - Cyphre confirmed bilinear filter is missing in R2 draw. It could be added, if we wish so for R2 updates. In R3, there is new parameter for such purposes, called RESAMPLE |
Graham 13-Jan-2010 [9441] | so you can do this ... get the block first data: to-block read %myfile.txt and then compose on the block view layout compose/only [ text-list (data) ] |
BenBran 13-Jan-2010 [9442] | Thanks Graham. view layout compose [text-list (data)] ; worked |
WuJian 13-Jan-2010 [9443] | view layout [text-list data parse read %myfile.txt ""] |
Dockimbel 13-Jan-2010 [9444x3] | Pekr: thanks for the confirmation. Why does it appear in documentation then? http://www.rebol.com/docs/draw-ref.html#section-3.15 |
Anyway, thanks to you and nconvert, I could deliver the new CureCode feature to my customer this morning. | |
I think I'll drop View support in Cheyenne completely in the next release and search for a suitable third party graphic library to add. | |
Henrik 13-Jan-2010 [9447] | good idea |
Pekr 13-Jan-2010 [9448] | If View sucks, well then. But it is a good measure of how it is "usable" in real-life ... |
Maxim 14-Jan-2010 [9449x2] | try image magic. its fast, easy to use on the command-line, it can process in up to 640 bits images and there is limit on capacity as it can actually use disk as ram while its processing! I rendered 20GB worth of images into one composite ... using 500MB of ram. |
and there are no higher quality engines out there... but that all depends if it does what you need in terms of image and graphics. | |
Henrik 14-Jan-2010 [9451] | we can't build an extension for imagemagick yet, can we? |
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