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[View] discuss view related issues
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Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9416] | It seems to be ok without the filter, so maybe some default filter is in action. Let me check... |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9417] | Lanczos (IrfanView) is giving incredible good results. |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9418x2] | couldn't convolve filter be used somehow? |
I use lanczos in XnView by default ... | |
Henrik 12-Jan-2010 [9420] | you can blur the image before downscaling, but it can smear it more and the image isn't as clear. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9421] | How do you access CONVOLVE operator? (can't see it in Draw documentation) |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9422] | btw - nconvert is 1.8MB one single exe with all filtering capability of xnview inside. Should be cross-platform too IIRC. But - the licence might not fit, I don't know ... |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9423] | Doc, my version seems filtered to me. Have you tried? |
Pekr 12-Jan-2010 [9424] | do http://www.rebol.com/view/demos/convolve.r |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9425x2] | Geomol: I'll try it right now. |
This is what I get with my current code : http://softinnov.org/tmp/thumbs64.png | |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9427] | Hm, different to say 100%, if my version is filtered. Some results look ok, others maybe not so good. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9428x4] | left=REBOL, right=IrfanView |
The original image is the CureCode homepage viewed inside Chrome (http://curecode.org) | |
Geomol: same result with your code. | |
Looking at the nconvert solution... | |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9432] | Yeah, you're right. Too bad. :-/ |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9433] | Looks like NConvert is a good solution for now. It's simple enough, supports the right filters and is multiplatform. |
Geomol 12-Jan-2010 [9434] | I tried resize both under Windown and OS X with same result. No filtering. |
Dockimbel 12-Jan-2010 [9435x2] | Pekr, thanks for NConvert link and for pointing me to Convolve operator, pity it's not mentioned in any of the View doc I know of. |
Convolve effect could actually help get Lanczos filter implemented at mezz level with decent speed. | |
BenBran 12-Jan-2010 [9437] | view layout [text-list "this" "is" "a" "text" "list"] myFile.txt contains "this" "is" "a" "text" "list" how can I: view layout [text-list read %myFile.txt] ? tia |
Graham 12-Jan-2010 [9438x2] | everything inside the layout [ ] is not rebol code .. it's a dialect |
VID = Visual Interfaces Dialect. | |
Pekr 13-Jan-2010 [9440] | Doc - Cyphre confirmed bilinear filter is missing in R2 draw. It could be added, if we wish so for R2 updates. In R3, there is new parameter for such purposes, called RESAMPLE |
Graham 13-Jan-2010 [9441] | so you can do this ... get the block first data: to-block read %myfile.txt and then compose on the block view layout compose/only [ text-list (data) ] |
BenBran 13-Jan-2010 [9442] | Thanks Graham. view layout compose [text-list (data)] ; worked |
WuJian 13-Jan-2010 [9443] | view layout [text-list data parse read %myfile.txt ""] |
Dockimbel 13-Jan-2010 [9444x3] | Pekr: thanks for the confirmation. Why does it appear in documentation then? http://www.rebol.com/docs/draw-ref.html#section-3.15 |
Anyway, thanks to you and nconvert, I could deliver the new CureCode feature to my customer this morning. | |
I think I'll drop View support in Cheyenne completely in the next release and search for a suitable third party graphic library to add. | |
Henrik 13-Jan-2010 [9447] | good idea |
Pekr 13-Jan-2010 [9448] | If View sucks, well then. But it is a good measure of how it is "usable" in real-life ... |
Maxim 14-Jan-2010 [9449x2] | try image magic. its fast, easy to use on the command-line, it can process in up to 640 bits images and there is limit on capacity as it can actually use disk as ram while its processing! I rendered 20GB worth of images into one composite ... using 500MB of ram. |
and there are no higher quality engines out there... but that all depends if it does what you need in terms of image and graphics. | |
Henrik 14-Jan-2010 [9451] | we can't build an extension for imagemagick yet, can we? |
Maxim 14-Jan-2010 [9452x2] | yes we could. |
I hadn't even tought about that | |
Henrik 14-Jan-2010 [9454] | at this rate, we could have a dozen extensions by spring. |
Graham 14-Jan-2010 [9455] | Do we have any extensions yet? |
Henrik 14-Jan-2010 [9456] | two so far, AFAIK |
Graham 14-Jan-2010 [9457] | and they are available somewhere ? What are they? |
Henrik 14-Jan-2010 [9458] | Not available yet. Not sure they will be, but maybe. Robert is working on an SQLite extension and a Windows COM interface. |
Maxim 14-Jan-2010 [9459] | there is a text to speach extension that has been released on the extensions group. |
jocko 14-Jan-2010 [9460] | I have done three "experimental" extensions : a text to speech, a matlab engine extension, a simple windows api with some useful calls : http://www.colineau.fr/rebol/R3_extensions.html |
Gregg 14-Jan-2010 [9461] | Cool Jocko. I have an old send-keys dialect as well. I think I did a dialect experiment over MCI command strings, but I'm not sure if I posted it anywhere. |
Dockimbel 15-Jan-2010 [9462] | Max, thanks for the additional info. Actually, NConvert is great but only as a command-line tool, it's not available in library form, so I'll probably end up wrapping Image Magick. |
Maxim 15-Jan-2010 [9463] | there is already an image magic R2 wrapper on rebol.org you can use to start, I've used it and it works... but you need to find the proper version of image magick (an older version). |
Cyphre 15-Jan-2010 [9464x2] | Doc, BILINEAR is in R2 but you can only upscale with that filter. Not good for thmbnails. If Carl want's to do frequent R2 updates it would be easy for me to add downscaling+lanzos filter to R2 DRAW. I think this is one of most requested feature and I actually have it already implemented in my separated R2draw.dll |
Other possibilty would be to use my R2 JIT compiler and program the filter as JIT function. Could be a good test example but not sooner until I get it to 'alpha stage' ;-) | |
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