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james_nak 4-May-2010 [9866x3] | Yes, I think I tried that. Of course I think I tried a million ways. :-) |
Let me check. | |
You know what they say? I could have sworn I used it... Thanks Graham. | |
Gregg 5-May-2010 [9869] | Paul, post your method. There wasn't any common dialog for folder selection in Windows for a long time, and REBOL still doesn't provide direct access to it. |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9870] | for a long time ? I remember using the folder selection dialog in Win3.1 apps... |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9871x2] | windows folder selection dialogs really suck for many reasons... one of the most annoying is that you cannot create a folder while you are hunting for one. |
so if Paul has found a trick that allows us to use the normal file requestor so it can pick folders... YAY | |
Gregg 5-May-2010 [9873x2] | It wasn't a common dialog though, and required callbacks (at least the Shell API I knew of). I don't remember it in 16-bit Windows, but the duff on the floor of my brain is thick. |
Max, not sure what dialogs you're talking about, but the common dialogs allow that. | |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9875x2] | Maxim, I think that the "New folder" button is an option for the folder selection dialog; at least I see it often in programs pre-Vista. Vista+ the folder selection dialog is a subset of the Open/Save dialog, with most of its abilities. |
Gregg, it's possible that the Win3.1 programs that I remember were using a custom dialog that served as the inspiration of the later common dialog, but they worked the same. The common dialogs themselves were a later addition, iirc; not sure whether Windows before 3.0 had them. | |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9877] | was there windows before 3.11? ;-) |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9878] | Yup. Windows had a 1.0.3 release, just like REBOL but with less memory usage :) |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9879] | I was joking, there where many releases before 3.11 ... ;-) |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9880] | I know, just going with it :) Though practically, I considered REBOL 1.0.3 to be more useful than Windows 1.0.3 :) |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9881x2] | hehe, but its funny that windows 1.0.3 actually didn't have windows, it was a row/column/grid gui engine. |
the OS itself I mean. | |
Steeve 5-May-2010 [9883] | and it was running with what... less than 1 Mb ? |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9884x2] | Less that 512k - room to spare to run apps even if you only had 640k. |
Partly due to the wonders of small screen resolutions and bitdepths (which made tiled windows a bad idea). Nowadays I have screen images that take more memory than Win 1.0.3 altogether :) | |
Steeve 5-May-2010 [9886] | I remember that with 3.11 the memory allocated for graphic controls of an active window was limited to 64Kb |
Maxim 5-May-2010 [9887] | yes people forget that just storing a SINGLE bitmap which is 1280x1024 in RGBA colors, takes up 5.25 MB of ram. it adds up very quickly. |
BrianH 5-May-2010 [9888] | To be fair Steeve, just about everything in Win3.1 was limited to 64k - stupid segmented memory. I jumped at Win32s when it came out :) |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9889] | trying to use set-face in a loop to assign values to multiple text fields...what is wrong here? fields: [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face field now ] |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9890] | although I never used set-face... I'd say you have to do: set-face field to-string now |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9891x2] | I tried it with a string ...I was not thinking when I wrote the example |
getting this error: ** Script Error: in expected object argument of type: object port ** Where: set-face ** Near: if all [ access: get in face 'access in access 'set-face* ] [ access/set-face* face value ] if | |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9893x3] | add a show to it... might just not be refresing itself. |
ah. | |
probably just need to 'REDUCE your fields block first. its not receiving an object as its first parameter fields: reduce [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face field now ] btw... use the 'source command whenever you get these types of errors. >> source set-face set-face: func [ {Sets the primary value of a face. Returns face object (for show).} face value /no-show "Do not show change yet" /local access ][ if all [ access: get in face 'access in access 'set-face* ] [ access/set-face* face value ] if not no-show [show face] face ] | |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9896x2] | I never use set-face either but I'm tired of setting a bunch of fields manually |
The fields need to stay as word! If I reduce them they will give me their current value... | |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9898x2] | remember that even if [a b c] are bound... they will still be passed as words to the function in your loop. another way is to use 'GET directly on the words within the loop, but that can have hard to understand binding side-effects, depending on how the block was originally created. |
example using 'GET fields: [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face get field to-string now ] | |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9900] | that works...thanks but I do not fully get it...I look into it. |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9901x2] | GET gives you the value of a word. the detail being that the word may or not be bound. when it isn't bound explicitely, it will search for it in the global context (explicitely if you give it a lit-word). which is why its always a good idea to use GUI code within a context, so you can be sure any un-explicit binding is local to that context. note that you must explicitely create them within the context (at the root level of the context) for that binding to occur. (note to Lad & Brian..I know I'm over-simplifying the whole concept, but that is how basically it works for "mere mortal" ;-) ex: here .... danger! [a b c] use isn't bound within the context. context [ layout [a: field b: field c: field] fields: [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face get field to-string now ] ] while this will be (and protect your global context from being clobbered by the field names), plus you are sure that GET will try to use the field names locally. context [ a: b: c: none layout [a: field b: field c: field] fields: [a b c] foreach field fields [ set-face get field to-string now ] ] if you really wanted to be funky, you could put words in the [a b c] block which are bound to other contexts using 'IN. append fields [] IN other-context 'd then when the loop runs, the field specified by d in that OTHER context will also be set. |
hehe... that seems like it was a "Binding 101" tutorial hehehe | |
amacleod 13-May-2010 [9903] | That helps...I think. thanks |
Maxim 13-May-2010 [9904] | using the above tricks you can make system-wide intialisation functions: here is a cool previous login detection system which fills up your whole gui based on stored data in a database. ; supply contexts, view controls set into them and the data to set into. setup-all-gui: func [ spec /local ctx control controls data i ][ foreach [ctx controls data] spec [ repeat i length? controls [ control: get in ctx controls/:i set-face control data/:i ] ] ] ; reload previous session either all [ main-data: get-sql-last-main-data ; returns [ "project" "module"] login-data: get-sql-last-login ; returns ["user" "encrypted" "server.com"] ][ setup-all-gui reduce [ main-gui [proj-fld mod-fld] main-data login-gui [login-fld passwd-fld server-fld] login-data ] ][ print "This is the first time you use application, user-setup will now be called." setup-user ] |
Henrik 15-May-2010 [9905] | is it not possible to capture ctrl+tab? |
Pekr 15-May-2010 [9906] | no ... that is my old-time complaint ... ctrl tab is needed to swithc between tabs .... |
Henrik 15-May-2010 [9907] | ok, thanks |
Graham 24-May-2010 [9908] | http://www.rebol.com/downloads/v277/viewpro-277-agg-fix1.exe |
Henrik 26-May-2010 [9909x2] | are there known problems with RATE inside a DETECT? when I use it, EVENT/TIME is fired constantly, even if I set rate to something like 0:0:10. |
whoops, I meant event/type = 'time, not event/time. | |
Steeve 26-May-2010 [9911] | you need to do a show of the face to have the rate taken in account. |
Maxim 26-May-2010 [9912x3] | here is how it works..... I had to stumble upon this within GLASS. when you add a rate to a face, actually, the timer will trigger 30 times a second, no matter what your rate is. do event will filter the events based on what your rates are set up. |
because detect is part of the wake-event system, it gets all the events from the input stream, so you end up with all time events. | |
it was done this way so view can share the same time event among many faces, internally. | |
Henrik 26-May-2010 [9915] | ok, I see. |
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