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BrianH
15-May-2009
[2496]
As for the path stuff, you may be out of luck. Try this:
m: 2
p: 2
u: 2

mike/:m/:p/:u: "disabled"
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2497]
ok, so I have to split it into integers.. Nice to hear it from the 
developer of the ARRAY  :-)
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2498x2]
It's not just more typing saved. The value passed to array/initial 
is not copied, it is referenced. Your version would have aliasing 
issues.
If you specify multiple dimensions instead it creates unique nested 
blocks instead of multiple references.
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2500]
Thanks for point this out, I see it is very important.

I will try to use your new function passing once I get it working 
in a basic form.  Thanks.
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2501x2]
Learn to love the SOURCE function :)
>> source array
array: func [
    "Makes and initializes a series of a given size."

    size [integer! block!] "Size or block of sizes for each dimension"
    /initial "Specify an initial value for all elements"
    value "Initial value"
    /local block rest
][
    if block? size [
        rest: next size
        if tail? rest [rest: none]
        size: first size

        if not integer? size [make error! "Integer size required"]
    ]
    block: make block! size
    case [
        block? rest [

            loop size [block: insert/only block array/initial rest :value]
        ]
        series? :value [
            loop size [block: insert/only block copy/deep value]
        ]
        any-function? :value [
            loop size [block: insert/only block value]
        ]
        insert/dup block value size
    ]
    head block
]
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2503]
I often look at it but lak the skill to interpret it very well.
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2504]
help & source are so powerfull a feature in rebol
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2505]
They're how I learned this stuff :)
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2506]
people don't realise that the console provides many features visual 
IDEs dont provide
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2507]
oh was that a RTFD coming from Brian ? so mean...
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2508]
Wait, it does copy/deep the initial value. It's been a while since 
I looked at that function :(
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2509]
array [x x x] is much neater though
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2510x3]
So it really does just save typing.
:)
Note it only only does copy/deep of series. Objects are still referenced, 
so you still need the does [make proto []].
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2513]
Some say that developers are born with a finite number of key strokes... 
once they are used up, that is the end.
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2514x2]
hmm, it's a bug no ?
or a missing feature, as you wish
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2516]
No, I can see the value of only copying series. You don't usually 
want to copy objects - it's not as safe.
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2517]
ok i do 10 push-ups
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2518x2]
I need more excercise anyways :)
Spelling doesn't count if it's not code though :)
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2520]
every single day (and often a few times that day):

- I open up a rebol console from quick-launch bar in windows (taking 
about 0.1 sec to appear)
- type help 'some-func 
- test the 'some-func with some-data I'm using. 
- close the console.  


overall it takes about a few seconds, to do a unit test of something 
I'm adding.
 no bloat,  no dangling window.

python offers something similar... but:
- python takes anywhere from 3-10 secs on load.  

- then you have to know in what lib the most basic function is (alread 
half as usefull) 
- the console itself is really bad, 
- previous commands browsing is really stupid

- having to type so much more code to get the simplest function test 
going is a pain
- in the end, its a non-feature.
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2521]
I leave a R2 and R3 console open full-time while I'm working. It 
helps to have R3 open too since I don't always remember how much 
of R3 I've backported to R2, so sometimes I remember a function that 
doesn't exist in R2.
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2522]
I found a cosmetic bug in the console
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2523x2]
I was just pointing out that rebol is sooo fast to launch that you 
can close it and its not a pain... I easily get up to 10-15 windows 
open at a time, and when you've got half of them as rebol consoles, 
its easier not to guess which one is the help window  :-)
impossible... the console is *perfect*   ;-)
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2525]
i have 3 R3 consoles (one for the chat, on for test, one for... i 
don't remember)
I have 1 R2 console for testing
Henrik
15-May-2009
[2526]
maxim, it's amazing that R3 is even faster at launching.
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2527]
Text mode :)
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2528]
well.. Obviously, Carl keeps removing stuff from REBOL... just ask 
steeve   ;-)
Henrik
15-May-2009
[2529]
nah, it's just that Carl has secretly figured out how to do random 
compression.
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2530]
is there a neat trick to do this with less verbosity please ?
a: first parse {1/2} "/"  
b: second parse {1/2} "/"
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2531x2]
Oh, wait until we get going on the modularization - then you'll really 
see things getting removed :)
set [a b] parse {1/2} "/"
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2533x2]
I can send a number up to 28 with only one it or smoke signal.
it=bit
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2535]
just don't make rebol require includes in every single app.  that's 
a large part of rebol's appeal.
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2536]
yep Max
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2537]
There will be default includes.
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2538]
hey, what about my 28 to 1 lossless compression... now Paul has gone, 
someone has to keep the fire burning. :-)
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2539]
But the default mechanism will be an optionnal module
BrianH
15-May-2009
[2540]
Default includes: system/contexts/exports
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2541]
cause frankly shaving off 100kb from rebol.exe... in an attempt to 
improve it... is like saying that life vests are in the life boats... 
but the life boats aren't accesible unless you are sinking.
Steeve
15-May-2009
[2542]
just kidding
Pekr
15-May-2009
[2543]
I see no point in modularisation of current R3. It is still small. 
I just wish that we do plug-ins and interfacing, tasking, in really 
good way = good for concurrency environments ...
Maxim
15-May-2009
[2544]
there is a point where smaller isn't better.  it just gets annoying.
mhinson
15-May-2009
[2545]
How about an on line compiling service ?  one use per month for free.