World: r3wp

the file http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/datatypes/date.htmllooks like 
being affected too

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/10:36:09+12:00
>> d/1
== 2009
>> d/2
== 7
>> d/3
== 5

though it's 4th of July for you guys ...

not for me anymore

Thanks...  I can work with that information, but I am curious as 
to how referencing the whole date gives Jul  but there seems no option 
fot the month as a word.... not that I want it, but I am curious 
how that works.

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/0:36:25+1:00

not applying to those guys who should be asleep!

LOL

which reminds me .. date functions should have a /utc refinement 
:)

I write my best code in the middle of the night with no PC... shame 
it is all forgotton by the morning, or written on toilet pater.

Happy 753rd year of independence (source: wikipedia, apparently):
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50902

mhinson .. look at the locale

753 years ???

Check the article, graham.

>> probe system/locale
make object! [
    months: [
        "January" "February" "March" "April" "May" "June"

        "July" "August" "September" "October" "November" "December"
    ]
    days: [

        "Monday" "Tuesday" "Wednesday" "Thursday" "Friday" "Saturday" "Sunday"
    ]
]

Gavin Menzies, the english "historian" claims the americas were "discovered" 
by a chinese fleet in 1421 ...

>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/0:42:01+2:00
>> pick system/locale/days d/weekday
== "Sunday"
>> pick system/locale/months d/month
== "July"

Discovery means less and less every day :(

I'll only trust wikipedia when they put the "a" back in ... as wikipaedia

WTF ... did Ladislav's time zone undergo a shift  ... or is he flying 
??

so does Rebol always reference the system/locale when printing a 
DATE! but only store the inteeger values?  or does it store the date 
in julian format & do more complex stuff to output even things like 
date/year

graham: the first one was from R3, the second one from R2

oh !

so "flying from R3 to R2"

In both cases .. your clock, or mine, is out by 2 mins

mhinson, MOLD and FORM never reference system/locale - REBOL syntax 
is English-based.

my clock is out

Not sure we know the actual internal format.....You could run some 
timing tests to get an idea.
Another useful R2 mezzanine that may help. Mike:
   to-idate now
(to-idate not yet in R3)

is it known, that R3 does not take into account the DST?

It does not notice the change, but does take into account the dst 
at start time.

...but it shows just +1:00 as my timezone

graham:
>> d: now
== 5-Jul-2009/0:54:14+2:00

When last i checked at least. AFAIK it uses the system timezone. 
Does your system take dst into account?

R2 is able to get it

R3 doesn't notice DST here (checked just now).

Funny it does here.

... just teasing ... Malaysia and Singapore have had  daylight savings 
al the year round since sometime in the last century.

al -> all

Equatorial countries?

Just think of what they do in Antarctica ...

All antarctic bases except the Chilean ones use zone -3:00, the Chilean 
ones -4:00 to match Chile.

No DST in Antarctica.

A couple stations use +12:00.

NZ at Scott Base ?

uses + 12:00

McMurdo and Amundsen-Scott use +12.

Queen Maud Land uses +2

what a complete mess ...

So, its just as confusing as for the rest of us, but at a smaller 
scale.

I wonder how far outside the perimeter of their bases does their 
time zones extend