World: r3wp

Reichart: There was a quote Carl made (he was quoting someone else) 
comparing Rebol to the Matrix as being something "you either get 
or you don't".  On a parallel note, I'd cite the first panel in this 
Xkcd: http://xkcd.com/566/

Look, maybe you just suck at explaining.
  :) :)

I've started some crude articles (and BrianH has earned the diligence 
barnstar for correcting them), but they're nothing compared to what 
they could be if more than two people were poking at them.  http://rebol.net/wiki/Scoping_in_Rebol
  http://rebol.net/wiki/Dialect_Design_Considerationshttp://rebol.net/wiki/The_Invariants_of_Rebol

And since we share a leaning toward an interest in design, I'll share 
the Icon/identity ideas I had: http://rebol.net/wiki/REBOL_logo

Hey Fork, what tool did you use to generate the isometric images? 
 Or what technique?

Brock: Sketchup

The 3D one was rendered by Milan Antovic: http://github.com/hostilefork/rebmu/blob/master/rebmu.r

Er, http://www.elance.com/experts/serbia_vojvodina_vrsac/3d_modeling_animation/1853084

(Clipboard being wonky in AltME for some reason)

I didn't feel like learning any rendering packages so I subcontracted 
that, but it's not a final rendering carefully done... just communicates 
the possibility...

Fork, great articles and ideas :)

I really like the logo, and your scoping article is easily understandable.

Good stuff Fork!

Scoping: 

make-employee: func [name id] [
    employee: make object! compose [
        name: (name) 
        id: (id)
    ]
    return employee
]


'employee isn't declared as local. Is it explicit to make the explanation 
more concrete?

Is camelCase used for a reason, rather than following the standard 
REBOL style?

Fork's icon is very cool.

Glad you guys like it...

I tend to use camelCase for local variables to distinguish them from 
functions, but I don't have particularly strong feelings.  If there 
are Rebol coding standards then perhaps a wiki article describing 
them would be a good project for someone who knows them to undertake 
:)

I hope people put pressure on Rebol 3 having a strong visual message, 
and that graphic design is not ignored.  Thus far it does not seem 
to have been given any attention.  My idea is supposed to be a kick-start 
to that process but not the final answer.

There used to be an official coding "style" guide on rebol.com but 
I wasn't able to find it. It seems to have got lost during the website 
refurbishment.

There's this: http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/scripts-style.html

Yes that's it.

I think it would be great if the feel of the graphics on the site, 
and the logo, could match the feel of the GUI. I know GUis will have 
skins and themes, but a consistent message could go a long way. Is 
REBOL mainly a server scripting tool, or is it a slick-UI tool? And 
if View has a different target than REBOL/Command SDK, their icons 
can be themed as such.

Gregg: Perhaps http://www.haiku-os.org/is an example of the kind 
of thing you are talking about.

Yes. Conceptual integrity will help all the way through IMO.

testing. doesn t seem to accept my message

hello does someone have a working script sample of a dsn less odbc 
connection script. I tried the example in the "database reference" 
page, but it doesn't work.

the dsn example works.  However  I need the dsn less to work for 
the piece of code I am trying to do.

Yes. ...

Let me find it ...

see bottom of this page http://www.compkarori.com/vanilla/display/Firebird+Walkthrough

thanks Graham.


this altme thing is very buggy. this is the 10th time I am sending 
almost the same 
message and it is not posting.


does someone have a dsn less odbc connection script for connecting 
to a microsoft access 
database ?

Just look at any example of an access connection string ...

why don't we use a web based forum ?   it would be more reliable 
than this buggy altme ?  I am new to this and I am already having 
a bad impression about the quality of this application.  I have to 
send a message 10 times to get it posted once.

Doesn't happen to me .. so something wrong with your setup.

web forum http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?3-Rebol

not a problem for me either... actually its the first time I hear 
about someone with the problem you describe.

but for some people Altme is very buggy ...

the main issue is the inability to sync with new messages

though I've never had that

(though the sync issue is only for very slow connections AFAIK)

I have a slow connection  . you see ... sending 3rd time .  

i never had a problem posting a message in any browser based forum. 
  which again show the reliability and resiliency of web based forum 
over this altme.

yeah .. this is a web 2 application .. designed for fast connections. 
 not really suitable if you use a dial up modem

YueM, does AltME disconnect or are the messages simply slow to appear?

He's posted here http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/showthread.php?11-ALTME-is-buggy

YueM has asked me (via REBOL.org's feedback to post this):

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I give up on altme. it's so frustrating.  can you post the following 

message for me in the "I'm new " group. I am trying to reply to Henrik 

about the problems with altme.  thanks for your help. I tried your 

advice and typed everything in notepad,  then cut and paste and click 

on send. It is just too much effort  resending 10, 20 times to get 
something out , or not at all.


thanks for your help. I think they have to redesign that altme thing.
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I'm trying to answer on the forum...

Thanks -- I am sure we can debug this thing, given enough community 
brains!

I think the problem is just that he's trying to post while all groups 
are downloading.

Posted a response.

Sunanda, your work on the web archive for AltME and the mailing list 
is fantastic.  A web based front end for _posting_ and reading messages 
to/from both would do wonders for REBOL community involvement and 
growth.  The Darknet really does keep us from having a larger community. 
 It's a shame :(   I created a little hack script a while back that 
would allow web based posting to the mail list, but no one seemed 
interested...  Having a web based forum which aggregates access to 
these two communication channels would do so much to help with promotion 
and community growth.  I'm 110% sure of that!  ...and rebol.org would 
be a great place for it :)

Thanks Nick!


If AltME had an API that allowed us to write messages into a world, 
then perhaps we could use that to have a write-also interface to 
the AltME archive at REBOL.org, in addition to the read-only interface 
we see now. 

Ditto, a mailing list API.

But we'd need the APIs first :)


And I can immediately see various issues related to preventing spam 
and bots from rampaging through those APIs ... But not insurrmountable. 


Clearly, this is not an issue for [I'm New] -- perhaps switch to 
[Script Libary] for any further comments,