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shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [377x5] | Graham I could add Excel and Word too but that's not the main actual purpose IMO |
sources are freely downloadable and modificatable If your challenge is to merge them why not | |
but the resulting app will be very bogus , veryheavy and very slow .... | |
MDP is a more sofisticate way to process and for example with section rendering I still have some counting problem on next refresh | |
GEOMol's NICOMDOC is pretty but in vid rendering outch !!! Plz carl enhance VID rendering engine because NICOMdoc coloring text is a perf kill for VID ... | |
Graham 29-Jan-2005 [382] | ahhh ... yes, colour text |
shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [383x2] | NicomDoc has things from MD2 and things from MDP + things really new |
but colored text in VID there I said NO, NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!! IMG parsys this kind of heavy flaged an recompose it to VID it's a hudge task and very process consumist | |
Graham 29-Jan-2005 [385] | doesn't didier have a rich text style? |
shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [386] | yes but it's not talking nicomdoc it's talking RLD a low flaged dialect hand even in this case we absolutely don't know what it could produce on VID rendering time for very large text coloring (like source code text syntax colored highlighted etc...) |
Graham 29-Jan-2005 [387] | I guess one could choose to ignore the colouring and just pass it through |
shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [388x2] | maybe with AGG cpabilities we will be able to speed rendering enought to produce those kind of ticky widgets |
Graham if you make it the to inhinitate it why t do it ?? | |
Graham 29-Jan-2005 [390] | huh? |
shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [391x2] | whay to spent time on things you know 99% of the time you will need to shut down in the previewer ... there is yet so mutch to do |
but once again in the very futur things like that could be added with full perf and until this time we train our selves on simpliest format (simpliest for the VID statement at least) | |
Graham 29-Jan-2005 [393] | I wonder what the proportion of users are for mdp and md2 |
shadwolf 29-Jan-2005 [394x6] | MDP is yet heavyly use in rebolfrance article making |
MD2 is yet heavyky used on blog | |
so I can say that each of them have is own duty asigned MD2 to release quick and not very very sofisticated text MDP for articles with more sophistication in it ... | |
NicomDoc is a step over this two that's sure but it's heavyly using html capabilities and adapting this to VID HUM HUM HUM | |
With actual parse token statement it's very hard ... | |
you can Dl it on http://rebol.dev.fr/view.php?sid=140(actual version is 1.3.3 see rebol script header for changelog ) | |
shadwolf 30-Jan-2005 [400] | GRaham note that I don't say I'm not interrested on making NicomDoc quick and easy editor but this format has too a lot of things to make a VID parse writer mad hehehehe or maybe I'm not enought skilled ... |
Sunanda 30-Jan-2005 [401] | Its good to have competing mark-up languages ... they can all gain by learning from the strengths of the others. HTML and VID are such different concepts that you can't easily start from a single "higher" dialect and make full use of both VID and HTML MakeDocX {x=2 or Pro or blank) gives you very little comtrol over the emitted HTML -- so it is less powerful but more generic....hence thoughts of PDF and other emitters. NicomDoc is more powerful as a HTML generator but, as shadwolf says, not nearly so easy to VID....Though let's give it time to develop: it's only days old. Mulch (my dialect) gives you total control over the HTML and CSS with almost zero chance of a VID version being possible..... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/boiler.r?display=mulch-help |
Pekr 30-Jan-2005 [402] | Color Text (Rich Text). One week ago I talked to Carl here about various topics and reminded him of rich text, he said it is important, so I put together few notes we produced in the past and he noted that he has something slightly different in mind and that he may say publicly something to it, so let's hope he will do so ... |
shadwolf 30-Jan-2005 [403x3] | Pekr for coloring I think perf is vital |
good perf are dependant of the main process performance | |
in actual way we have to parse the MDX(retake of sunanda notation see up) file then create a page with will content style and data to so in this operating way making complicate conposing like a heavy colored text or a content linked table of content (=toc) will include a new parsing statement in the parsing statement this will increase a slow rendering process | |
shadwolf 31-Jan-2005 [406x4] | New MDP-GUI version 1.3.4 you can down load it there --> http://rebol.dev.fr/view.php?sid=143 |
MDP-GUI v1.3.4 include a remade IHM a bug correction and the rendering of the list of content | |
I know that I'm making every day a new realease of an unstable project but this helps me to figure out for eventual bugs... | |
and this helps you to see what direction the MDP-GUI project is taking I hope this 1.3.4 version will be at your taste. :) | |
James 31-Jan-2005 [410] | Okay, I downloaded makedoc2 from rebol.org the other day and I still haven't figured out how to create links. In makedoc all you did was "url=http://www.rebol.com"REBOL" " but that just shows up as text in makedoc2. Could you help me out? |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [411] | I don't think you can in MakeDoc2. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [412] | Darn. |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [413] | But the HTML tag <a> should work. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [414] | So, I could just edit the HTML file and add it afterwards? |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [415] | Yes, or write <a href="http://www.rebol.com">REBOL</a>in your text. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [416] | It automaticly executes HTML? |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [417] | Well, it just take it over to the output without processing it in any way, so it should work. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [418] | Nice. I didn't know that. |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [419] | Like if you wanna write something in bold, you use <b>bold</b>. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [420] | Ah. This is where it pays off to know basic HTML. :) |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [421] | :) |
James 31-Jan-2005 [422] | Thanks! I'll have to do that. |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [423] | Problem is, if you wanna build a system to have other output than HTML. |
James 31-Jan-2005 [424x2] | True. That would be a little more difficult. |
What about layouts? Do those work the same? | |
Geomol 31-Jan-2005 [426] | I've written a MakeDoc2 summary. Look here: http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/nicom-md2-spec.html |
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